New Sea-Dweller. It's here

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by moby33

While I don't think the GL of my SubC is by any means bad, I prefer the GL of my DSSD more simply because I don't have to remove the watch to adjust. Either way it wouldn't be a deal killer for me, but I just prefer to keep one hand on the wheel of my car and adjust the band...something I can do when wearing the DSSD, but not the SubC. Why I always feel the need to adjust when driving, I have no idea?!?!

I'm a set and forget sort of person with my clasp at the inner most position.
Set like that the watch sits perfectly with the clasp perfectly centered on my wrist(diver extension still in place).
I think I may have adjusted it once to demonstrate the extendable function to a curious observer, but it quickly went back to its original position due to discomfort.

I have always worn my watches a little on the loose side due to necessity so they can move around a fair bit.
But not so loose that it flops around all over the place like some rappers bracelet.

[lhawli]

Originally Posted by Dirt

The actual dial diameter is inconsequential.



The point is, how is it measured?

Across the dial out of the case?

Or Across the legible part cased up?



You will need to specify.



Any way either you like the watch as it is on your wrist or you don't.

Just vote with your dollars like everybody else.

I don't get your point, sorry. A dial is a dial and either it's the same as, say, the SubC or it's not! Point being is that if the dial is the same i.e. the sapphire crystal over the dial is the same dia (granted thicker for the SD) then the watch will look awkward. One of the biggest turnoff for the DSSD is that exact point having the dial of a sub in a 44mm dia watch. But if you want specifics, then I would say cased up, because optically, that's what you see when you are wearing it.

I will vote, when I see it in the metal. Everybody else can vote with whatever means they please :).


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[Seaotter]

Originally Posted by Dirt

In Seaotter's post above the Rolex blurb clearly states the dial has been enlarged.
With very slight variation in Rolex dial widths across models for a given size, I doubt it ever makes any difference in real terms.
I dobt the new SD would be much more than 1 mm bigger in the diameter of the dial.

IIRC, the last incarnation of the 16800 SD had a smaller dial(obviously gloss) than the 14060 Sub.

Source: Rolex PR

After being modernized in 2014 to incorporate
the latest technological standards for Rolex
divers’ watches, this year the Sea-Dweller
has been entirely rethought to enhance its
performance and ergonomics, while preserving
the strong ties with its special heritage.
Waterproof to 1,220 metres (4,000 feet), the
904L steel case has increased in diameter to
43 mm, enhancing the legibility of its functions
and giving it a presence on the wrist that fully
reflects the model’s long history. Consequently,
the whole watch has been re-dimensioned: with a wider
rotatable bezel, bracelet and clasp, a thicker crystal and a
broader dial. Overall, the new Sea-Dweller displays a remarkable
aesthetic and functional balance.
The Cyclops lens over the date, a signature feature of
Rolex watches since its first appearance on the crystal in
1953, features on this model for the first time. In the past,
technical constraints related to the thickness of the crystal
had prevented its use. Today its presence is possible,
substantially improving the legibility of the date.

[scruffydog79]

Think of it this way.

Now people will look at the original SD4K (vintage, transitional or even with modern 2008 models) with great love and nostalgia.

Simply it will always be the original 40mm and with no Cyclops :)

Who's to say their prices won't increase now?

[Seaotter]

Originally Posted by scruffydog79

Think of it this way.

Now people will look at the original SD4K (vintage, transitional or even with modern 2008 models) with great love and nostalgia.

Simply it will always be the original 40mm and with no Cyclops :)

Who's to say their prices won't increase now?

(vintage, transitional or even with modern 2008 models)
2014 /116600

[Toivonen]

Originally Posted by Foxglove

+1 million.

+1 billion.

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by Foxglove

+1 million.

Originally Posted by Toivonen

+1 billion.

-1 trillion

[G'ed]

Some high quality pics from fratellowatches.com.

[sebastien1975]

Lack of cyclops is the reason i bought a SD4000 in the first place. Do definitely a no go for me. Now if they had re-issued the SD4000 (40mm) with a red liner and still no cyclops, i would be tempted...

[moby33]

Originally Posted by Dirt

In Seaotter's post above the Rolex blurb clearly states the dial has been enlarged.
With very slight variation in Rolex dial widths across models for a given size, I doubt it ever makes any difference in real terms.
I dobt the new SD would be much more than 1 mm bigger in the diameter of the dial.

IIRC, the last incarnation of the 16800 SD had a smaller dial(obviously gloss) than the 14060 Sub.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was asking about the alleged "larger" bezel. While many have speculated it appears bigger, I haven't seen any specific stats proving the bezel is in fact proportionately larger. That was my question.

If the dial & case are larger, it stands to reason the bezel will be slightly bigger too. I was wondering about the statements made how it appears the dial stayed the same size and therefore the extra real estate was probably made up via a bigger bezel. That does not necessarily appear to be the case if Rolex has officially put out info that the dial has grown in conjunction w/ the rest of the watch growing.

[Toivonen]

Originally Posted by scruffydog79

Think of it this way.

Now people will look at the original SD4K (vintage, transitional or even with modern 2008 models) with great love and nostalgia.

Simply it will always be the original 40mm and with no Cyclops :)

Who's to say their prices won't increase now?

[Toivonen]

Originally Posted by Psmith

-1 trillion

+ ∞

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by Toivonen

+ ∞

Hey, that's cheating - infinity is not really a number

[lhawli]

Just got a call from my AD Chateau D'Ivoire in Montreal Canada. Family owned and the son (a friend) goes to BW every year. He is actually there and coming back tomorrow.

Some "in" on the new SD43... it's being treated like the SS DaytonaC in that they are holding back and drip feeding its release in small numbers. There is already 5 people on the waiting list at this AD and retailing at CAD$13,000. I usually get good prices but not sure about this one. But if you compare to US prices, I "think" Canadian prices are slightly lower if you work out the exchange rate, which brings it at USD$9,700? Is my assumption correct?

Speaking of holding back, my AD told me they may not receive any till end of this summer!!!! That's not the usual few weeks after BW release.

Can anyone comment on this relative to talks with your ADs?


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[lhawli]

On a separate note - I wonder how many People who put deposits on the watch will regret it when they find that it's almost same thickness as the DSSD lol.

This pic was taken from another thread on this forum! Courtesy @Hwkaholic
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[MCOSUB]

Who would ever want a 17mm SD? Unless you just really like the color Red

[GUICAMPA]

Originally Posted by RRGHOST1

I like it a lot, right size and love the Cyclops.

x2

[Porter]

Oh man!!! Another one out of my wrist range...Sad!

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana". Groucho Marx.

[Big Wristed]

Originally Posted by lhawli

On a separate note - I wonder how many People who put deposits on the watch will regret it when they find that it's almost same thickness as the DSSD lol.

This pic was taken from another thread on this forum! Courtesy @Hwkaholic
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Can anyone confirm this? Only 1mm difference with a DSSD??

[Big Wristed]

Without the titanium case back like the DSSD, the SD43 could even be relatively as heavy. Can anyone confirm re the weight as well?

[Hwkaholic]

Originally Posted by lhawli

On a separate note - I wonder how many People who put deposits on the watch will regret it when they find that it's almost same thickness as the DSSD lol.

This pic was taken from another thread on this forum! Courtesy @Hwkaholic
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Thanks!

Here is the other one I put together for those interested.

Also, based on the same measurements of the side view the lug to lug measurement is roughly 50-52mm.

[Toivonen]

Originally Posted by Psmith

Hey, that's cheating - infinity is not really a number

[SC11]

What's the DSSD 17.7 ?

If the above is right and the new SD is 16.1mm (forget the cyclops) and the outgoing is 15.5mm so nothing really in it TBH.

That's given the measurements above work out correct

[Syed117]

Damn it.

This is exactly what I wanted from a Rolex Dive watch that isn't a Sub.

The red is amazing.

But they ruined it with that cyclops.

Why...

On top of that, the steel DJ41 doesn't have a steel jubilee option?

Come on Rolex.

[lhawli]

Originally Posted by Syed117

On top of that, the steel DJ41 doesn't have a steel jubilee option?

Of course it does!

With a gold fluted bezel...
https://m.rolex.com/watches/datejust/m126334-0004.html

...and with a smooth bezel!
https://m.rolex.com/watches/datejust/m126300-0008.html



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[Syed117]

Originally Posted by lhawli

Of course it does!

With a gold fluted bezel...
https://m.rolex.com/watches/datejust/m126334-0004.html

...and with a smooth bezel!
https://m.rolex.com/watches/datejust/m126300-0008.html



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I stand corrected and that's actually exactly what I want.

41mm, fluted bezel, jubilee.

Hopefully a while Roman dial, but let's see.

[lhawli]

Originally Posted by Syed117

I stand corrected and that's actually exactly what I want.

41mm, fluted bezel, jubilee.

Hopefully a while Roman dial, but let's see.

Hopefully a fluted bezel, jubilee bracelet with the rhodium dial... this!

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[HogwldFLTR]

I like it but going with the SkyD instead. The SD just doesn't dazzle me.

[Jsan20]

I'm hoping it's a slow mover so I can get a nice discount on mine.

[LuminousMaximus]

New Sea-Dweller. It's here

It's not really here... It's still there...

Nice pic by the way.