** 100% confirmed Basel info & discontinued models info

[Watchgeek5000]

I would check the for sale section on the forum to see if OP is selling an SD4000!

[watchwatcher]

Yeah...no.

[gregmoeck]

They have not discontinued the milgauss, they won't discontinue the sea dweller,.Both icons and must have piece's

[swils8610]

Originally Posted by Tony64

Ok, thanks.

Edit: after re-reading my initial post I can see that it might have come across more heated then intended. Wasn't meant confrontational but can certainly see how it might appear that way. Thanks for pointing that out, and apologies to the OP or anyone else who took offense.

All is good Tony64! I don't wish to see anyone denied a watch they may want. It seems as a Rolex is discontinued they become more sought after and in demand. I personally don't look at my Rolex as an investment but it would be cool if it did go up in value over time. When they were still making the Pepsi/Coke GMT's they were no big deal. Now they are coveted and sought after. Cheers.


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[Watchgeek5000]

Originally Posted by swils8610

All is good Tony64! I don't wish to see anyone denied a watch they may want. It seems as a Rolex is discontinued they become more sought after and in demand. I personally don't look at my Rolex as an investment but it would be cool if it did go up in value over time. When they were still making the Pepsi/Coke GMT's they were no big deal. Now they are coveted and sought after. Cheers.


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I remember in 1999 buying a GMT coke only because I couldn't find a sub! I immediately brought the watch to Rolex to have the insert changed to all black so it would look more like a sub.

[BNA/LION]

Originally Posted by MovieGuy

- Sea-Dweller 4000 has been discontinued. A re-designed model may replace it within the next couple years.

- All 26mm models have been discontinued and are being replaced by the 28mm model. Any 26mm stock that ADs have can be sent to Rolex by the AD to have the dial changed to a different color at no charge. Rolex wants ADs to sell down their 26mm models as soon as they can.

- The elastomer strap that is currently only on the 37/40mm everose Yacht-Master will be available on at least one other Professional series model.

- 34mm Oyster Perpetual and Date will be discontinued.

- Datejust II in steel and steel and white gold are discontinued and will be replaced by the Datejust 41. The jubilee bracelet will be an option on the Datejust 41 and will have the same oyster clasp that the yellow/steel and everose/steel Datejust 41s already have.

Humm I get the 26mm for sure. Straps on other pro series, if their research shows it is wanted... maybe, discontinuing models is a well thought out decision that is often met with resistance from loyal customers but might happen. In any event- we will see in March.

[Danny83]

Cool

[breitlings]

Thx for info op.

[havingagoodtime]

Is the OP being truthful? I would say yes. Is the relayed info accurate? Somewhat likely. Do I believe the SD4K is being discontinued? Not a chance.

[mactruck]

I totally believe this. When I tried on the SD4K I immediately hated it. From lug to lug it's too short. The SubC wears bigger. This watch should be a 42mm. If they go 42mm it will be the perfect watch and that's exactly what I told my AD and he totally agreed so in my opinion it would do them well to replace that model with a 42mm version. Would be the perfect lineup. The DeepSea must stay for the big guys and and the subC for almost anyone but the SD4K should be for the folks who want a larger watch but can't handle the DeepSea.

[Meme-Dweller]

Originally Posted by mactruck

I totally believe this. When I tried on the SD4K I immediately hated it. From lug to lug it's too short. The SubC wears bigger. This watch should be a 42mm. If they go 42mm it will be the perfect watch and that's exactly what I told my AD and he totally agreed so in my opinion it would do them well to replace that model with a 42mm version. Would be the perfect lineup.

Thank the watch lords that you don't work for the Rolex product design department! The SD4K is perfect minus the awkward end link being taller than the lugs

[nyc2la]

Originally Posted by kilyung

i have my 116600 so haven't a care in the world

+1

[mactruck]

Originally Posted by Meme-Dweller

The SD4K is perfect minus the awkward end link being taller than the lugs

Maybe for you and a few select people but the hardest watch to get right now is a deepsea especially a deep blue. The SD4K is sitting in ADs all day long. My ADs have had them for months in stock. The higher price, combined with how it sits high and wears small has turned off many buyers. It's not a terrible watch, it's just that the SubC and deepsea are better options.

[Watchgeek5000]

Originally Posted by mactruck

Maybe for you and a few select people but the hardest watch to get right now is a deepsea especially a deep blue. The SD4K is sitting in ADs all day long. My ADs have had them for months in stock. The higher price, combined with how it sits high and wears small has turned off many buyers. It's not a terrible watch, it's just that the SubC and deepsea are better options.

There's a deepsea for sale right now in NYC pre owned like new, green hang tag so it can't be too old. His asking price $7500 box/papers! So I wouldn't say deepsea is too hard to get either, James Cameron may be tougher.

[JLM3]

Sd4k,26mm date just, yachtmaster plat dial and white Milgauss have been discounted from what I have heard also but does anyone really know if its true..lol

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by mactruck

Maybe for you and a few select people but the hardest watch to get right now is a deepsea especially a deep blue.

I know of two sitting in cases within an hour from my house. Let me know when you find some 116500s laying around.

[cmcm3]

I don't see Rolex celebrating the Dweller's 50th birthday by discontinuing it. What kind of birthday present would that be? Imagine we did that with people!! "Happy birthday Dad! Look, we're taking you to Switzerland! Where are we staying? Oh, just a little place called Dignitas..."

They MIGHT do a model update/replacement. I could see that.

[HoboDxb]

Originally Posted by cmcm3

I don't see Rolex celebrating the Dweller's 50th birthday by discontinuing it. What kind of birthday present would that be? Imagine we did that with people!! "Happy birthday Dad! Look, we're taking you to Switzerland! Where are we staying? Oh, just a little place called Dignitas..."

They MIGHT do a model update/replacement. I could see that.

lmfao

[Jocke]

We got this every year and I think Baselworld should be in May instead so we can post the Rolex news Apr 1.

[Abdullah71601]

Didn't Gerardo meet some high level Rolex USA dude who said that no one knows what Rolex intends to do except five guys at the head of the company? I'm guessing the Rolex USA sales rep attending this store isn't one of those five.

[Jocke]

At least the header should say 99% so the OP have something that saves him.

[R G]

Originally Posted by Tony64

Never understood this logic. Why does it appeal to you that they discontinue a model that you report to love??



Do you think it will somehow increase your "investment"? If that's the reason I hope that you have a significantly more diversified portfolio.



Do you simply want to deny others the same opportunity? If that's the reason it's hardly in keeping with the overall spirit the watch aficionados that frequent these forums.



Lastly, is the watch that you love insured? If so, how would you plan on replacing it if it were ever lost or stolen? Presumably you'd accept a used watch as a substitute, because with its discontinuation that's all that would ultimately be available to you.





I personally hate to see a model discontinued, for all of the above reasons, but somehow I often read posts like yours where some seem to relish the prospect of a watch discontinued. I'm just trying to figure out why?

However you cut it, and whether you like it or not. when something is rare or has been discontinued it creates More of a demand. Existing owners feel more privileged to own one.

Examples; Why are Daytona's so rare? Because they are in limited supply. Rolex know (as any company that markets well) that this creates even more demand. How many new Daytona owners have you seen posting on here? It's normal.

Man seeking a rare classic one of a kind car. How many times have you seen something being promoted as 'rare'?

Clearly people go for this and buy in to it. It's human nature I'm afraid.

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Didn't Gerardo meet some high level Rolex USA dude who said that no one knows what Rolex intends to do except five guys at the head of the company? I'm guessing the Rolex USA sales rep attending this store isn't one of those five.

And if so I believe he will say nothing.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by R G

However you cut it, and whether you like it or not. when something is rare or has been discontinued it creates More of a demand. Existing owners feel more privileged to own one.

Examples; Why are Daytona's so rare? Because they are in limited supply. Rolex know (as any company that markets well) that this creates even more demand. How many new Daytona owners have you seen posting on here? It's normal.

Man seeking a rare classic one of a kind car. How many times have you seen something being promoted as 'rare'?

Clearly people go for this and buy in to it. It's human nature I'm afraid.

Not true at all. Demand is based entirely on desirability. Rare makes desirable pieces more valuable, it doesn't make undesirable pieces desirable.

Desirability is based on intangible traits that are very often quite difficult to predict. There is no certainty that a discontinued model will become desirable. There are many old Rolex models that aren't desirable and don't bring premium pricing.

Add to which, no modern model is rare.

[regnant]

I don't think Sea Dweller 116600 will be discontinued it will rather receive some tweaks as aforementioned here by some forum members. May be it will get a new reference number too.
I have a Sea Dweller 116600 and it seems to sell more than I thought. Deep Sea D Dial must be the one that would discontinue but not now

[R G]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Not true at all. Demand is based entirely on desirability. Rare makes desirable pieces more valuable, it doesn't make undesirable pieces desirable.



Desirability is based on intangible traits that are very often quite difficult to predict. There is no certainty that a discontinued model will become desirable. There are many old Rolex models that aren't desirable and don't bring premium pricing.



Add to which, no modern model is rare.

I think I'll have to disagree with you there, but thanks for your take.

I'm not talking about speculating which modern models will become rare, so your whole last paragraph is lost I'm afraid.

I'm merely saying that when something, whatever it is, becomes rare, yes it becomes more valuable, but my point was - many people instinctively want what they can't have. Fact, hence my reference to the Daytona - limited supply but massive demand. Stirs up even more interest.

Psychology 101.

[Winnie Bloo]

What ever happens we won't be able to do a "monkeys" about it.

Enjoy what you have and try and get the ones you desire

What more can you say?

"Simples"

[Marcus09]

I heard my AD telling me about the SD4000 that it might be replaced by a newer 42mm model so that it can sit between the 40mm sub and the 44mm Deep Sea


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[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by R G

I think I'll have to disagree with you there, but thanks for your take.

I'm not talking about speculating which modern models will become rare, so your whole last paragraph is lost I'm afraid.

I'm merely saying that when something, whatever it is, becomes rare, yes it becomes more valuable, but my point was - many people instinctively want what they can't have. Fact, hence my reference to the Daytona - limited supply but massive demand. Stirs up even more interest.

Psychology 101.

The discussion in this thread is about modern watches, and you said "However you cut it, and whether you like it or not. when something is rare or has been discontinued it creates More of a demand. Existing owners feel more privileged to own one."

Rarity does not correlate to value. Desirability correlates to value. If the watches were sufficiently desirable to warrant increased value Rolex would not be discontinuing them in the first place.

Business 101.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Jocke

And if so I believe he will say nothing.

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