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15 September 2020, 11:13 PM | #241 |
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LOL...and it’s not even a Patek
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15 September 2020, 11:30 PM | #243 |
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16 September 2020, 12:55 AM | #244 |
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29 September 2020, 06:17 AM | #245 |
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What would you guys pay for an early FPJ CB, say one of the first 15 pieces ever made?
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29 September 2020, 10:23 AM | #247 |
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29 September 2020, 10:34 AM | #248 |
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Cheap and expensive are relative terms, of course. But things do have objective intrinsic value to a large extent. In this sense, a CB for 60k is indeed madness, as is a 5711.
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29 September 2020, 10:49 AM | #249 |
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White dial Daytonas for $27K. RMs for 1,000,000.00. Millions of people still spend big money on comparatively less accurate mechanical watches rather than quartz or Apple watches. Madness is relative.
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29 September 2020, 10:56 AM | #250 |
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With less than 2,000 or whatever made (not claiming to know, just assuming 200/year), it doesn’t take much demand to make the price go higher and higher. And with it effectively discontinued for all but the largest boutique clients the gray market is really the only game in town. Where the ceiling is I have no idea but with that few in existence it isn’t inconceivable that it goes even higher someday.
Price aside, it’s one of my favorite watches that I own. Such a unique material and the reflective blue dial is unlike much else. |
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By the way, I originally quoted your post not because I thought it factually wrong - it's not, in today's market what you said makes sense - but simply because it is exactly today's market which doesn't. |
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29 September 2020, 12:18 PM | #252 |
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A watch goes 2x-3x and everyone thinks it’s a stock and it could conceivably go to 4-5x lol
As long as the CS is available for 30s I’ll bet my lunch the CB isn’t headed much higher than it is now. Maybe if François-Paul was making them each by hand but at the end of the day this is a fairly large production piece. This isn’t a simplicity. Edit: for context I am a big fan of FPJ and think the CB is a great watch worthy of praise. Just sayin.
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Fast forward to today.. i see madness n I cannot understand why there are such a high demand for them! On the other hand I own two CBs.. one I bought back in 2010 with discount and another in early 2019 at retail.. I always felt it is a work of art. I love tantalum. I own tantalum APs too. IMHO the CB should be priced substantially more than the 5711. |
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Haha well you don’t have to worry, I own no. 13 and I am not selling it any time soon Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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congrats! May it bring you good luck always
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13 is a lucky number which will demand for a premium. |
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29 September 2020, 10:33 PM | #258 | |
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Wow which tantalum APs???? I love AP’s tantalum finishing, especially the RG and Tantalum perpetua Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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The 14790 is my favourite. That perpetual calendar tantalum/18KPG is something I have been searching for.. I have yet to find a fine collectable example. They are pretty rare and those I found for sale are not complete ie some without papers and most do not have a complete bracelet and most are in terrible condition. |
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The dual time in tantalum is really great.. do you have pictures? I’d love to see rhen Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I won’t argue with you there at all. I think they are both worth around 20-25k but FPJ says it himself it’s important for him to provide value to the customer. Patek doesn’t give a damn about that particularly on entry level pieces. If you want a nautilus you’re kind of stuck with a 5711 or something more expensive. If you want a CB the CS is a wonderful alternative with similar design cues for half the secondary price. I feel similarly about the 15202 being capped because AP offers the 37 and 41mm alternatives.
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You're right about that. The two brands are leagues apart.
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Unfortunately I never liked it and sold it a few years later. I too do not understand the craze over them, but I do wish I had kept it had I known the prices would go this high, oops. |
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I remember when no one wanted the Nautilus.
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True, patek costs 4 times more, consider that as well.
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After owning about 6 or 7 Pateks, FPJ not being a PP is a huge plus.
HUUUUUUUUGE PLUS!
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