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The Dude · 17 February 2007, 07:16 AM

Cropped but not re-sized, taken from my couch, all hand held with the 85/1.4, I have way too much free time and do not sleep nearly enough...

I was simply trying different settings ISO 200 to ISO 6400 equivalent ... (Yes that's a mustard yellow wall, still have yet to paint this room, one wall came in this color in the apartment... I kid you not.)

At ISO 200 ambient light (incandescent... books sitting on top of a dresser) f/1.4 of course... 1/10 of a second exposure

At ISO 800 = 1/45 sec... If ya ask me, not much of a difference between 200 and 800 hence I skipped a whole bunch of steps... Awesome, just awesome!

... ISO 1000 = 1/60 sec, same light same aperture but gaining in speed fast and pretty good results noise wise so far, excellent for speed! love it!

... ISO 1600 = 1/90 sec wow!

Still low noise to me, good for indoor sports and night time city shooting

... ISO 3200 equivalent (One step over 1600!) = 1/180 second exposure... Wowser but starts getting noisier, yet still usable IMHO if you need to.

and last but not least ISO 6400 equivalent (Two steps over 1600, whatever that means...) = 1/350 sec hypersonic fast but freaky noisy...

Not too shabby up to ISO 1600 after which ya gotta need it to use it...

Lets recap a little

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Uncle-AJ · 17 February 2007, 10:08 AM

I guess you bought a new camera Patrick?

The Dude · 17 February 2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

I guess you bought a new camera Patrick?

Kinda/Sorta yes, I started by buying a 54mm/1.4 then got a 18-200 VR and an 85/1.4 but the D2Hs was $1000 off retail at this store in Montréal soooooo what was I to do? I mean, high ISO and hyper fast (8 frames a second) camera with one of the best image sensor in the Nikon line up, I couldn't pass it up, it was that or a new watch and frankly - I have been using the camera a lot more...

montecristo · 17 February 2007, 03:01 PM

Just curious, whats the typical ISO on a point and shoot camera?
Isn't high ISO setting for taking pics in the dark?

Uncle-AJ · 17 February 2007, 07:46 PM

Nice choice Patrick, I have a D2Xs which has seen a lot of use since August last year. I must admit, I try not to shoot at anything over ISO 400 because with birds you usually have to do a lot of cropping and then the noise starts to show.

Ken regarding point and shoot camera ISO values, I'd say they went no higher than ISO 400 but all cameras are not the same.

Gedanken · 17 February 2007, 09:47 PM

That's impressive, Patrick! ISO 1600 on my 400D is noisy enough, and I try to avoid anything over 400.

The Dude · 17 February 2007, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by montecristo

Just curious, whats the typical ISO on a point and shoot camera?
Isn't high ISO setting for taking pics in the dark?

It really depends on the models and how many features you have in the menu, most point and shoot do not go higher than 400 ISO but I have seen some advertized as high as 1600 ISO or was it 1200 ISO? I can't recall... My old Konika/Minolta had ISO 800 on it if I remember correctly but then again it had more manual features than any P&S I ever saw and some of the best glass in its class.

charles · 18 February 2007, 01:22 AM

The D2Hs is one of Nikon's best for indoor low-light work but it's low pixel density didn't work for me with indoor sports where cropping can be heavy. I use a D2Xs and primes for all my indoor sports work...I can shoot at iso400 and keep noise in check.

The D2Xs and 85/1.4 is one of my favorite combos...

Uncle-AJ · 18 February 2007, 07:21 AM

Great pictures Charles and that 85mm f1.4 sounds tempting.

charles · 18 February 2007, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

Great pictures Charles and that 85mm f1.4 sounds tempting.

Thanks...it's a classic...I wish they'd update it with AF-S tho!

Uncle-AJ · 18 February 2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by charles

Thanks...it's a classic...I wish they'd update it with AF-S tho!

That's a thought, maybe I'll wait and see what happens.

The Dude · 18 February 2007, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charles

The D2Hs is one of Nikon's best for indoor low-light work but it's low pixel density didn't work for me with indoor sports where cropping can be heavy. I use a D2Xs and primes for all my indoor sports work...I can shoot at iso400 and keep noise in check.

The D2Xs and 85/1.4 is one of my favorite combos...

Awesome images, great captures and crisp clear

charles · 18 February 2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

That's a thought, maybe I'll wait and see what happens.

Nikon is notoriously slow for upgrades.

The upside to the 85/1.4 is it's awesome...just needs a little horsepower boost. Optically about perfect!

charles · 18 February 2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude

Awesome images, great captures and crisp clear

Thanks!

Enjoy your 85/1.4! Looks like you already are!

17 February 2007, 07:16 AM	#1
The Dude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In my own world Posts: 595	D2Hs totally unscientific High ISO experiment Cropped but not re-sized, taken from my couch, all hand held with the 85/1.4, I have way too much free time and do not sleep nearly enough... I was simply trying different settings ISO 200 to ISO 6400 equivalent ... (Yes that's a mustard yellow wall, still have yet to paint this room, one wall came in this color in the apartment... I kid you not.) At ISO 200 ambient light (incandescent... books sitting on top of a dresser) f/1.4 of course... 1/10 of a second exposure At ISO 800 = 1/45 sec... If ya ask me, not much of a difference between 200 and 800 hence I skipped a whole bunch of steps... Awesome, just awesome! ... ISO 1000 = 1/60 sec, same light same aperture but gaining in speed fast and pretty good results noise wise so far, excellent for speed! love it! ... ISO 1600 = 1/90 sec wow! Still low noise to me, good for indoor sports and night time city shooting ... ISO 3200 equivalent (One step over 1600!) = 1/180 second exposure... Wowser but starts getting noisier, yet still usable IMHO if you need to. and last but not least ISO 6400 equivalent (Two steps over 1600, whatever that means...) = 1/350 sec hypersonic fast but freaky noisy... Not too shabby up to ISO 1600 after which ya gotta need it to use it... Lets recap a little 1600 Cropped 1600 Resized 6400 Cropped 6400 Resized

17 February 2007, 10:08 AM	#2
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17 February 2007, 03:01 PM	#4
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17 February 2007, 07:46 PM	#5
Uncle-AJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Real Name: Adrian Location: Bolton, UK. Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 6,844	Nice choice Patrick, I have a D2Xs which has seen a lot of use since August last year. I must admit, I try not to shoot at anything over ISO 400 because with birds you usually have to do a lot of cropping and then the noise starts to show. Ken regarding point and shoot camera ISO values, I'd say they went no higher than ISO 400 but all cameras are not the same. __________________ A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.........Segal's Law Member #10

17 February 2007, 09:47 PM	#6
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	That's impressive, Patrick! ISO 1600 on my 400D is noisy enough, and I try to avoid anything over 400. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

18 February 2007, 01:22 AM	#8
charles Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NC Posts: 445	The D2Hs is one of Nikon's best for indoor low-light work but it's low pixel density didn't work for me with indoor sports where cropping can be heavy. I use a D2Xs and primes for all my indoor sports work...I can shoot at iso400 and keep noise in check. The D2Xs and 85/1.4 is one of my favorite combos...

18 February 2007, 07:21 AM	#9
Uncle-AJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Real Name: Adrian Location: Bolton, UK. Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 6,844	Great pictures Charles and that 85mm f1.4 sounds tempting. __________________ A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.........Segal's Law Member #10

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