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Old 12 February 2019, 08:12 AM   #31
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Welcome to Europe, where you'll pay twice the price because of ridiculous taxes...
Really? Twice the price? Amazing.
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Old 12 February 2019, 08:12 AM   #32
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Welcome to Europe, where you'll pay twice the price because of ridiculous taxes...

yes, very true, i just read that the spanish are panicking as the 'tourist tax' is threatening their industry, these lefties that run the world just love to tax, regulate, and ultimately destroy.
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Old 12 February 2019, 08:20 AM   #33
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Hard Pass on the Supra.
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Old 12 February 2019, 08:40 AM   #34
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Welcome to Europe, where you'll pay twice the price because of ridiculous taxes...
Look on the bright side, it’s still not as bad as Singapore.
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Old 12 February 2019, 09:15 AM   #35
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Could have been great, but way too many negatives as other have pointed out.

I was really hoping they would have started with the Lexus RC F and made it better ... or at least a better looking (remove the Lexus-Predator-grill) and add a manual transmission.

Slap on a big rear spoiler, CF roof, and change the badges and it's already way better than a rebadged Z4.
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Old 12 February 2019, 10:02 AM   #36
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This is more like an MR2 or celica coupe.

In terms of segment, the Supra was comparable to the GTR, NSX, killing M3s, EVOs, etc.

Sad to see they are ruining a grail. The LFA is the true successor in my eyes.
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Old 12 February 2019, 10:22 AM   #37
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No thanks, hard pass for me. I'm sadden that that would use the name Supra for such an inferior vehicle.
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Old 12 February 2019, 10:33 AM   #38
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Disheartening to see all this hate for this car.

Makes me want to buy one.
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Old 12 February 2019, 10:42 AM   #39
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Disheartening to see all this hate for this car.

Makes me want to buy one.
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Old 12 February 2019, 10:48 AM   #40
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Disheartening to see all this hate for this car.

Makes me want to buy one.
Didn’t realize you were a BMW guy.
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Old 12 February 2019, 11:00 AM   #41
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Didn’t realize you were a BMW guy.
I’m a car guy. Before I bought the RRS, I had a X5 5.0. Love the range, but miss the bmw. I’m a big M car fan too.

But I was in love with the Supra as a kid. This car has the DNA and the history imo. I also think it looks super (pun intended).

Ironically, I dislike the bmw version of this car. Loved its predecessor in hard top tho.
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Old 12 February 2019, 11:12 AM   #42
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this is not a supra
It's a Super Miata
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Old 12 February 2019, 11:16 AM   #43
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this is not a supra
Actually, it is a Supra.
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Old 12 February 2019, 12:14 PM   #44
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The MKIV Supra TT has a special place in my heart. It was the first "nice" car I ever owned. I had a 93.5 Premier Edition twin turbo that was just a blast. A few bolt-ons later, car made 450hp which was not too shabby way back when. The 2JZGTE motor was just insane...I remember people were putting down over 1000hp back then on the stock block.
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Old 12 February 2019, 12:33 PM   #45
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I was interested until no manual was available.
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Old 12 February 2019, 12:38 PM   #46
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The MKIV Supra TT has a special place in my heart. It was the first "nice" car I ever owned. I had a 93.5 Premier Edition twin turbo that was just a blast. A few bolt-ons later, car made 450hp which was not too shabby way back when. The 2JZGTE motor was just insane...I remember people were putting down over 1000hp back then on the stock block.
Yup it was an amazing 12 second car no matter how many mods were done
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Old 12 February 2019, 12:57 PM   #47
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Any thoughts on the upcoming release?
I use to have a mkiv


I hate this one i was actually waiting for the FT1. But its been bastardized
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The 90s were the pinnacle of Japanese sports cars. The MKIV Supra, FD RX7, NSX, R34 Skyline GTR, 3000GT were all amazing cars. Even now, 25 years later, the designs have still held up and these are all (except maybe for the 3000GT) are collectors cars. Even "lesser" cars like the Integra Type R, S14/S15 Silvia and 300zx were awesome.

With the exception of the LFA, I cannot think of a single car from Japan in recent years that is as cool or will stand the test of time like the sports cars from the 90s.
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Old 12 February 2019, 12:59 PM   #49
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In my experience Toyota does not make sports cars.

Of course this is relative, I prefer many other auto makers.
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The 90s were the pinnacle of Japanese sports cars. The MKIV Supra, FD RX7, NSX, R34 Skyline GTR, 3000GT were all amazing cars. Even now, 25 years later, the designs have still held up and these are all (except maybe for the 3000GT) are collectors cars. Even "lesser" cars like the Integra Type R, S14/S15 Silvia and 300zx were awesome.

With the exception of the LFA, I cannot think of a single car from Japan in recent years that is as cool or will stand the test of time like the sports cars from the 90s.
Have to agree with you Wes. I’ll take a Skyline any day of the week. But the twin turbo Supras were beasts back in the day. This new version doesn’t look as good.
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Old 12 February 2019, 03:59 PM   #51
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this is not a supra
Yep - not really worthy of the legacy.

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This is what's telling about this new release. Doesn't seem to excite previous owners. Seems like Toyota would've taken that into consideration. Especially with dumping a BMW engine it.
Exactly. I'd be more inclined to buy the BMW Z4 Concept than the production version of this new "Supra" or the production Z4. Bummer because it was on the wifey's short list prior to release. She doesn't like it either.
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Old 12 February 2019, 04:27 PM   #52
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Old 12 February 2019, 04:52 PM   #53
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I love Toyota but I’m not too fond of the exterior design.
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It's pricey, underpowered, the look is meh and to me doesn't really carry over from its predecessor.
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Old 12 February 2019, 05:18 PM   #55
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It's pricey, underpowered, the look is meh and to me doesn't really carry over from its predecessor.
The mark 4 was underpowered from the factory as well, yet all the cool guys found a way to get them up to 1000hp+ and destroy everything else at the dragstrip
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This is more like an MR2 or celica coupe.

In terms of segment, the Supra was comparable to the GTR, NSX, killing M3s, EVOs, etc.

Sad to see they are ruining a grail. The LFA is the true successor in my eyes.
Absolutely right except the LFA was ridiculously expensive. It was priced near the ‘hyper car’ territory.
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The mark 4 was underpowered from the factory as well, yet all the cool guys found a way to get them up to 1000hp+ and destroy everything else at the dragstrip
The good old days. That turbocharged engine is a beast. But I seriously doubt you can get much extra out of this one.
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The mark 4 was underpowered from the factory as well, yet all the cool guys found a way to get them up to 1000hp+ and destroy everything else at the dragstrip
Mk4 Supra, GTR r32, r33 & r34, rx7 were advertised with 280ps from manufacturers but had over 300ps on the dyno in stock form.
All those turbocharged Japanese cars were a complete beasts.
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Could have been great, but way too many negatives as other have pointed out.

I was really hoping they would have started with the Lexus RC F and made it better ... or at least a better looking (remove the Lexus-Predator-grill) and add a manual transmission.

Slap on a big rear spoiler, CF roof, and change the badges and it's already way better than a rebadged Z4.
Lexus are releasing a lighter, more focused Track Edition of the RC F, and have had a Carbon Edition (with CF roof, hood and rear spoiler) for some time.
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