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Old 15 February 2019, 10:43 AM   #31
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You paid for something that you have never seen, dont know the specifications and have zero clue of the model or what your buying? Hmmmmm sorry I cant agree with that - to me that just screams flipper and wanting to make a quick buck and exploit the current opportunity.

Its a damn watch. LOL seriously people WTF.
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Old 15 February 2019, 10:46 AM   #32
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You paid for something that you have never seen, dont know the specifications and have zero clue of the model or what your buying? Hmmmmm sorry I cant agree with that - to me that just screams flipper and wanting to make a quick buck and exploit the current opportunity.

Its a damn watch. LOL seriously people WTF.
Negative. He put money down to be first in line *if* there is something that he wants. Otherwise it goes toward something he already has on order.
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Old 15 February 2019, 10:50 AM   #33
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Despite my disagreement to this arrangement I won't judge. It's only (OP's) money. Either way will lead to desirable timepiece for the OP (I hope).

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Old 15 February 2019, 10:52 AM   #34
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Negative. He put money down to be first in line *if* there is something that he wants. Otherwise it goes toward something he already has on order.
You really believe that? Please man we are grown ups here.

Even IF he doesnt like it it he will "magically" love that piece post a picture on TRF and it will land at a grays within a week.
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Old 15 February 2019, 10:57 AM   #35
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Sounds like you have a very good relationship with your AD. And I think it's more about you being a loyal customer than the money, that would be my guess. And that's just great.

Funny, but I had thought about asking mine almost the same thing. I ordered a 114060 and that was after I cancelled my SD43 order and changed it to the 114060. Then, I wondered if I should have asked about a new Basel 2019 model instead. However, I left it with the 114060 as I like that Sub just as it is.

Anyway, it will be interesting how this plays out. There are plenty of people waiting to get these watches so, like you say, if you don't like one then someone else will take it, and you can move on.

It has taken me over a year to really get to like the new Pepsi. Now, I seem to love it! Maybe that will be my next.

Anyway, good luck on all this and it will be interesting to see how it does play out.

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Old 15 February 2019, 10:57 AM   #36
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You really believe that? Please man we are grown ups here.

Even IF he doesnt like it it he will "magically" love that piece post a picture on TRF and it will land at a grays within a week.
Your conclusion requires the assumption that he's a flipper, instead of discussing the OPs premise. I don't know OP, so I discuss what is put in front of me and assume it is true. Why bother discussing anything on the forum if everyone is just a greedy flipper? I've been here long enough to know that is not the case.
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Old 15 February 2019, 11:03 AM   #37
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Your conclusion requires the assumption that he's a flipper, instead of discussing the OPs premise. I don't know OP, so I discuss what is put in front of me and assume it is true. Why bother discussing anything on the forum if everyone is just a greedy flipper? I've been here long enough to know that is not the case.
Yes it is an assumption based on what they are doing. So its an assumption based on the ops actions. And its a typical method used by many flippers. Same thing for any hot commodity like Jordans, Yeezy's etc....this is exactly what happened and exactly what people where doing - paying for models and releases not even knowing what was coming out and immediately flipping them even though they didnt like it because there is someone that will like it and its easy money.

Most people are flippers thats why the current environment is the way it is now and this action screams flipper. Thats pretty much all there is to it.
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Old 15 February 2019, 11:10 AM   #38
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I’m in the “Congratulations, glad you’re happy” camp.

I’ll leave the “I prefer to second guess people and provide a little doom and gloom wherever I go” to someone else.


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Old 15 February 2019, 11:13 AM   #39
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Old 15 February 2019, 11:22 AM   #40
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If he gets the watch in 6 months he’s only lost $68 in interest assuming 3% rate... seems worth it to me


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There are 3% deposit rates for USD somewhere in the world? That be nice.


I can’t even get 2% on AUD, USD or SGD in my part of the world, so this whole argument that some folks obsess about of “could be earning interest on that $5K” for 6-12 months instead of putting down a deposit is a non argument at all, unless $45 makes such a huge difference in one’s life... in which case they should be buying a plastic swatch, not a $10K frivolous luxury object.
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Old 15 February 2019, 11:29 AM   #41
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Every year there's a 'must have' watch - and as OP clearly stated, he's not bound to anything if he would rather roll it over to a watch already on order. Worst case scenario the money goes to something else the OP wants. Best case - first one to get a SS Coke.

Why is that crazy? Paying 20K for a Steel Pepsi with a purple bezel - that's crazy.
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Old 15 February 2019, 11:33 AM   #42
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What ever works! Guess it really just depends on the level of trust OP has with his AD. Who's to say, there's isn't other big fish that just trumps the OP and his early deposit.
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Old 15 February 2019, 11:38 AM   #43
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There are 3% deposit rates for USD somewhere in the world? That be nice.


I can’t even get 2% on AUD, USD or SGD in my part of the world, so this whole argument that some folks obsess about of “could be earning interest on that $5K” for 6-12 months instead of putting down a deposit is a non argument at all, unless $45 makes such a huge difference in one’s life... in which case they should be buying a plastic swatch, not a $10K frivolous luxury object.


I think you are agreeing with me ?
I was being generous w 3%.... in reality, you can easily get around 2.2% on a deposit account and around 2.75% for a one year CD.


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Old 15 February 2019, 11:40 AM   #44
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I think you are agreeing with me ?
I was being generous w 3%.... in reality, you can easily get around 2.2% on a deposit account and around 2.75% for a one year CD.


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Totally agreeing... just can’t quote two posts in sane Tapatalk response so come out as I was replying to you;) yes 2.2% is what market pays indeed... not seen 2.7% offers in Asia As of yet...
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Old 15 February 2019, 11:54 AM   #45
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I think the Beanie Babies craze got to this same level just before it collapsed.

Not predicting the same fate, but it has that same gotta have the new one feel.

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Old 15 February 2019, 12:05 PM   #46
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Correct, I have an order in their system for a non referenced model. We picked an "average" and the deposit was 50% - $4500.



Last year I was so sure we were going to see a SS Coke and I wouldn't shut up to them about it. They thought it was comical to put an order in (internally) for a watch with no reference, but they did it anyway. They didn't ask for the deposit last year because they thought I was nuts. After the BLRO release they figured I was close enough on my guess that they let me have the first. This year they indicate they are getting a fair bit more traction for potential new releases. I didn't mind paying the deposit.


I think that’s great. Good for you! If you are going to buy something regardless. Why not make sure they know you are serious. Eventually, you will get first choice of whatever you want regardless of deposit. I think it was a very smart idea.


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Old 15 February 2019, 12:05 PM   #47
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So $4,500.00 down to be first in line for an unannounced 2019 model. If you don't like the 2019 model you can transfer the deposit to the piece you already have on order? Seems you are/were going to spend the money anyway.... just don't be a flipper.
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Old 15 February 2019, 12:22 PM   #48
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Sounds like you are just being smart and have the relationship to do so

Good on you
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Old 15 February 2019, 12:30 PM   #49
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If he gets the watch in 6 months he’s only lost $68 in interest assuming 3% rate... seems worth it to me


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That’s pretax as well.
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Old 15 February 2019, 12:31 PM   #50
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Paid $4,500 for a small note that says “IOU 1 fancy Rolex”...we are a crazy bunch
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Old 15 February 2019, 12:31 PM   #51
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Old 15 February 2019, 12:47 PM   #52
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My head didn't explode. Good luck OP!!
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Old 15 February 2019, 01:01 PM   #53
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That’s pretax as well.


People on TRF pay taxes ?
Jk lol. You are correct , so it costs OP a bottle of cheap bourbon to be top o the list. If it’s legit, makes sense to me.


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Old 15 February 2019, 02:10 PM   #54
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Yes it is an assumption based on what they are doing. So its an assumption based on the ops actions. And its a typical method used by many flippers. Same thing for any hot commodity like Jordans, Yeezy's etc....this is exactly what happened and exactly what people where doing - paying for models and releases not even knowing what was coming out and immediately flipping them even though they didnt like it because there is someone that will like it and its easy money.

Most people are flippers thats why the current environment is the way it is now and this action screams flipper. Thats pretty much all there is to it.
Relax. Your assumptions are way off. First, you group me in the “they,” with no knowledge of such. Second, if I was a chronic flipper, why on earth would I announce my devious tactics to the TRF world. To me, this forum is supposed to be a group of people that share a common interest - a passion for watches, in particular Rolex watches. Third, not that it matters, I have a very nice collection and would rather own the new piece than flip, I have a job that does not involve selling watches. Further, not all that long ago I traded off an SD43 that I bought from this AD. Before I did so I called them and offered back to them, when they declined I traded towards a Moonphase from a Grey on this site - with my ADs full knowledge. I believe if they caught me flipping right out of the gate that would nuke my relationship with them. You clearly find hard to believe that there may be honest, trustworthy people that value the relationship and the interest in the hobby over making a quick dollar. Jaded for sure. I’m sorry you feel that way. My assumption is that you can’t get a piece you’re after, which does suck, and somehow that is a universal infraction by the “theys” of this world.
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Old 15 February 2019, 02:21 PM   #55
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Good for you Easy. Sounds like one way or other, you're going to get something you like.
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Old 15 February 2019, 02:36 PM   #56
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Old 15 February 2019, 03:51 PM   #57
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I know this is going to make a few heads pop, but I just put down a deposit with my preferred AD for the first slot on a 2019 release. In the event that 2019 is a non-E inspiring release cycle I will just roll that to another piece I already have on order. I asked, they asked, I agreed, they agreed, all good. And, yes I believe they will keep me in the top slot. These guys take good care of me in that regard. I know its odd to pre-pay for such, but he said, and I believe them that they are already getting a lot of calls to be first. Money down wins.



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Old 15 February 2019, 03:56 PM   #58
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intersting....

nothing i would ever do....

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Old 15 February 2019, 03:57 PM   #59
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Every year there's a 'must have' watch - and as OP clearly stated, he's not bound to anything if he would rather roll it over to a watch already on order. Worst case scenario the money goes to something else the OP wants. Best case - first one to get a SS Coke.

Why is that crazy? Paying 20K for a Steel Pepsi with a purple bezel - that's crazy.


Hey! Some people like purple OMG I just peed my pants


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Old 15 February 2019, 03:59 PM   #60
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Anything in particular you are hoping for? And what watch are you on order for?


Yeah Ed!! I knew you would be in it to win it we should start throwing Basel watch parties.


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