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Old 10 February 2017, 09:39 PM   #61
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I definitely prefer the 16610 because I personally dislike the fat lugs on the 116610 - those fatter lugs make the 116610 look bloated.

The 16610 on the other hand has a streamlined and timelessly classic case shape which is very similar to its predecessors.

I generally prefer the 5 digits and 4 digits Rolex instead of the current 6 digits line. I like classic case Datejust and GMT case shape more than the current Rolex offerings.

Sorry if I have offended any 116610 owners :/
.. But of course, if anyone gives me a 116610, I would still wear it and enjoy it :D
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Old 11 February 2017, 12:11 AM   #62
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I definitely prefer the 16610 because I personally dislike the fat lugs on the 116610 - those fatter lugs make the 116610 look bloated.

The 16610 on the other hand has a streamlined and timelessly classic case shape which is very similar to its predecessors.

I generally prefer the 5 digits and 4 digits Rolex instead of the current 6 digits line. I like classic case Datejust and GMT case shape more than the current Rolex offerings.

Sorry if I have offended any 116610 owners :/
.. But of course, if anyone gives me a 116610, I would still wear it and enjoy it :D

I don't think there's any chance of that happening now
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Old 11 February 2017, 12:27 AM   #63
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I have this combo and like it but I have to admit the 6-dig design and features have me thinking about trading in my trusted friend (16610).
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Old 11 February 2017, 12:37 AM   #64
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I like the one on the left but I want a new watch.....!
I believe there is a private dealer in Hong Kong that has a new old stock (NOS) 16610 for around $7800 USD

I guess there are probably NOS somewhere, maybe ask the grey dealers.
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Old 11 February 2017, 12:39 AM   #65
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I don't think there's any chance of that happening now
Do you have a 116610?

Then let's make it happen lol
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Old 11 February 2017, 12:51 AM   #66
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Do you have a 116610?

Then let's make it happen lol
OK, I'll swap you fat and bloated for skinny and undernourished!
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Old 11 February 2017, 01:00 AM   #67
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Never a fan of 16610 stamped clasp. It cheapens the looks of the watch.
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Old 11 February 2017, 01:58 AM   #68
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OK, I'll swap you fat and bloated for skinny and undernourished!
Okay, you got me there, but...

Mind you! The early 6200 subs without the crownguard were A LOT skinnier and MORE malnourished than the 16610 and the 116610, yet they probably cost more than the blackmarket value of my kidneys!

skinnier subs = investment potential
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Old 11 February 2017, 02:08 AM   #69
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Okay, you got me there, but...

Mind you! The early 6200 subs without the crownguard were A LOT skinnier and MORE malnourished than the 16610 and the 116610, yet they probably cost more than the blackmarket value of my kidneys!

skinnier subs = investment potential
Indeed; although imho the chamfering on vintage models makes them appear slimmer than they really are. All nice pieces, of course. An 'Explorer dial' option for the current Sub would be something, although highly unlikely to happen!
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Old 11 February 2017, 02:18 AM   #70
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Indeed; although imho the chamfering on vintage models makes them appear slimmer than they really are. All nice pieces, of course. An 'Explorer dial' option for the current Sub would be something, although highly unlikely to happen!
I agree, an explorer 3,6,9 dial on a sub would be VERY nice and different for a change, like that 5513 with the rare 3,6,9 dial:



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Old 11 February 2017, 02:21 AM   #71
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Sub-C for me the extra weight, glidelock love it!
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Old 11 February 2017, 02:44 AM   #72
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I'm really hoping Rolex figures out a way to make their watches out Osmium so I can really feel the weight and quality on my wrist.
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Old 11 February 2017, 02:08 PM   #73
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16610 black
116610lv green

There. Problem solved!


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Old 11 February 2017, 03:27 PM   #74
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5 digit case on a glidelock bracelet for the win

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Hard to find, it cost more than new.....!
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Old 11 February 2017, 03:30 PM   #75
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Try them both and then decide. For me, new all the way.
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Old 11 February 2017, 03:39 PM   #76
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5 digit case on a glidelock bracelet for the win

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That's pretty sweet. So the newer bracelet fits the older case well?
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Old 11 February 2017, 04:40 PM   #77
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that's pretty sweet. So the newer bracelet fits the older case well?
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Old 11 February 2017, 08:40 PM   #78
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It's essentially a matter of air-cooled 911 vs water-cooled 911. A 996 checks a box in just about every performance and feature category, but I'd take the 993 all day.
The 993 was the best porker ever made, imo..
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Old 12 February 2017, 01:45 AM   #79
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I'm facing the same decision, think I prefer the classic 5 digit case slightly but WAY prefer the bracelet and glidelock on the 6 digit


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Old 12 February 2017, 02:03 AM   #80
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I'm facing the same decision, think I prefer the classic 5 digit case slightly but WAY prefer the bracelet and glidelock on the 6 digit


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You could install a glidelock clasp onto an 5 digit sub



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Old 12 February 2017, 06:08 AM   #81
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I prefer the 16610. It's lighter, less bling-y, and has the classic Sub shape.

Watches are an anachronism. You don't need new "features." A lot of wearers like the new bracelet/Glidelock, but I think it's too heavy and bulky.
You forgot the new Porsche/old Porsche analogy.
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Old 12 February 2017, 04:19 PM   #82
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A couple years ago. I paid more for a NOS 16610 then a brand new 116610. It was at an AD and they only had one, so it was either pay the premium or not have a sub at all. I called every AD in North America, I was that desperate. This AD was the only one who had it. Hated the maxi case, so the 116610 was not even an option. Pre owned was also not an option due to personal preference. No regrets.
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Old 12 February 2017, 04:39 PM   #83
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You forgot the new Porsche/old Porsche analogy.
Ha! I know, I'm trying not to use it every thread.

The problem is we're still too close to the "air-cooled" Rolex era for some to see it. In 2001, people were still picking the 996 over the 993 by a large margin. It was a huge seller (not that it's awful. I enjoyed mine.)
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Old 13 February 2017, 05:08 PM   #84
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I like all the new features in the subc but I don't like the super case. I think I will go with 16610
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Old 13 February 2017, 06:37 PM   #85
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I like all the new features in the subc but I don't like the super case. I think I will go with 16610


I recommend one of the last of the 16610s with the engraved rehaut.
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Old 13 February 2017, 07:54 PM   #86
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That's pretty sweet. So the newer bracelet fits the older case well?
Sure does. Not cheap and bought the bracelet here on the forum. Also fits 5 digit GMT and Daytona.

Good thing about the 5 digit is you can do this.........
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Old 13 February 2017, 09:19 PM   #87
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To me the 5 digit references just don't exude the same level of quality as the newer ones. The case sizes, by comparison, feel almost feminine, and the bracelets would be at home on an Armitron. When I went GMT shopping, I tried on countless 16710s..... and everytime, the case felt too small, the bracelet felt cheap, and other than the heritage and quality I knew were inherently there, nothing felt special. The 6 digits? Well they feel pretty special.
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Old 13 February 2017, 11:28 PM   #88
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i am planning on creating the perfect sub...16610 + sub c bracelet/clasp + maxi dial + maxi hands. Get'r done for under 10k.

Anyway, the sub c may be better in many ways, but what drove me to pick up the old model is because the 16610 looks SO much better on NATO then subc.
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Old 13 February 2017, 11:56 PM   #89
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i am planning on creating the perfect sub...16610 + sub c bracelet/clasp + maxi dial + maxi hands. Get'r done for under 10k.

Anyway, the sub c may be better in many ways, but what drove me to pick up the old model is because the 16610 looks SO much better on NATO then subc.
buy a 16610 lv and change the insert and bracelet.
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Old 14 February 2017, 01:05 AM   #90
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I picked the new sub c, for many of the positive reasons sited here. I think the shape once on the wrist works beautifully. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the main difference in size is from side to side (not length wise 12:00 to 6:00). That said, if Rolex came out with a new version with the lug shape of the SD4k I'd have to take a look.

All you can really do to know for sure is to try each on for yourself.
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