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Today afte the Auctions we will see where the future of 6263 is ;-)
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Looks like about 6million for the white gold.
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Also the rest is very strong!
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Think the sale in many regards weren’t what they hoped for. Great quality sold well but other than that it felt a bit slow. Will be interesting to see how the more normal Daytonas will perform in GWA7 tomorrow.
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the hammer price of lot 22 6263 black near NOS is much higher than I expected.
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Personally I think many sellers were dissapointed yesterday at the theme auction.
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I think it tells us that condition and boxes/papers really sets these higher-end vintage pieces apart, although that’s nothing new, of course. |
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Let’s see how normal good watches do tonight and tomorrow. For being a theme auction I think results in general was dissapointing for the 32 lots. Lot 214 tomorrow at Christies is a full set black dial in good condition. It will be interesting to compare that to the NOS from Phillips. I think it will do very well but nowhere near the NOS watch.
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There is still one direction...
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https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/...5-details.aspx
125 hammer Probably reflects the market for mint big red full sets better. Still very, very high. The awesome 6263PN passed at 480. I personally think the Daytona market is close to the top.
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125K hammer for a decent 6263 black BR is very high if compare many other manual daytona in this auction. That is what I said previously it is hard to find a perfect black dial.
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http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...01/lot.78.html
this 6265 full set white stop at 75K. https://www.phillips.com/detail/ROLEX/CH080118/251 this 6263 full set white hammer at 76K. |
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So, with those two examples that sold, you have a nice full set black 6263 at $156,000; and a very mediocre full set white 6263 with a written, not punched, guarantee paper at $95000. I'd say those are strong prices. |
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You could relatively easily buy a very nice full set 6263 (black or white) for about $60K just two years. |
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what about estimates? do those, theoretically, include the premium or no? |
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It does not, just hammer price
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ok good to know. then by any reasonable measure the Daytona Ultimatum was underwhelming, at best. i believe many here posted that watches would be selling for 2x the high estimate. when you back out the buyer's premium, most of the 32 lots sold at the lower end of the estimates. and this is supposed to be the creme de la creme of vintage Daytonas. watches featured in books of the most prominent Daytona experts in the world. not impressed at the results whatsoever.
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That said, totally agree that the auction wasn't as crazy as some of the pre-sale estimates. Still, there were only 32 watches sold, so at just over $22 million total, that's an average price of about $700,000 for each watch, a world record for highest average price for any watch auction. |
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I’m not familiar with auction strategy in any facet but I do like to follow them. Just my sense but did it seem as though the high end of the estimates for the Daytona auction were very aggressive? Could they have had lower top estimates and then we would be saying the results were better? There were also so many examples to bid in between thenultimatum and the other auction this weekend.
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