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Old 2 April 2018, 09:47 AM   #1
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I for one am hoping for a sub redesign...

.... at Basel 2019 or perhaps 2020. Slimmer lugs, thinner case and new movement please - that would be the cherry on top.

I’ve owned 4 maxi case references, including PM, and all of them were flipped at some point PURELY due to how the square case looked on my 7” wrist. It always just looked like the watch was wearing me, as opposed to me wearing the watch. And it was frustrating to finally realise it, since they’re all great watches.

For now DJ41 and a soon to be added Tudor Blackbay 58 will keep me satisfied.

Anyone else wishing for newer Rolex sport watches closer in dimensions to the 5-digit references of yesteryear?


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Old 2 April 2018, 09:56 AM   #2
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Yes and I would bet on it happening too. When? Idk
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Old 2 April 2018, 10:01 AM   #3
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I suspect the Sub will get redesigned the same way the GMT got redesigned - a barely discernible refinement, but still obviously a super-case design. A new movement with the redesign is a given at this point. When it will happen is anybody's guess, although I'd be surprised if it didn't happen by 2020.
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Old 2 April 2018, 10:06 AM   #4
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I have a 6.75" wrist and and I do not think it looks big or ugly on my wrist. Give him a fifth chance and you will fall in love. The Super Case is beautiful. Another option is Daytona case, YM or DJ.

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I’m with you, that’s one of the reasons I parted ways with my 114060. Who knows when it will happen, maybe in the next few years although like Jackson said, I think the difference will be marginal.
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Old 2 April 2018, 10:08 AM   #6
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I tried:
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All failed. As did the 216570. Perfect watch, but too big. Tried ‘making it work’ for over 1 year lol.

SD4K was great, but thick (understandable).


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Old 2 April 2018, 10:14 AM   #7
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I tried:
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All failed. As did the 216570. Perfect watch, but too big. Tried ‘making it work’ for over 1 year lol.

SD4K was great, but thick (understandable).
If it's not for you, then it's not. You're better of realizing it and moving on. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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Old 2 April 2018, 10:15 AM   #8
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I suspect the Sub will get redesigned the same way the GMT got redesigned - a barely discernible refinement, but still obviously a super-case design. A new movement with the redesign is a given at this point. When it will happen is anybody's guess, although I'd be surprised if it didn't happen by 2020.
I agree, think the chance to make this new oystersteel with a different case was there, not just have it a bit more shiny. I'm sure with sales booming now there is no real reason to make such a costly change.
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Old 2 April 2018, 10:15 AM   #9
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If it's not for you, then it's not. You're better of realizing it and moving on. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


The first couple of flips weren’t related to the watch size. Something newer/shiner is what drove me to make those moves. But yes, I agree with the definition.


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Old 2 April 2018, 10:37 AM   #10
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Love the current Sub as is. And with the insatiable demand I don't see a redesign anytime soon.
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Old 2 April 2018, 11:01 AM   #11
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This is one of those watches where Rolex could easily adjust a few things and make it better. They know it as well. It's just about the timing.

You can see the improvements in other models, especially the SD43.
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Old 2 April 2018, 11:38 AM   #12
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They will tweak the case when they put in the 3235 movement. They will probably just thin out the lugs a little. I personally like the maxi look. I can see if I was into Rolex before I would prefer the old style. Definitely flows better, but it also makes the watch look smaller on the wrist. With an almost 8 inches wrist anything smaller and I don't like how it looks. I will say 40mm maxi has grown on me since I came from a 44mm Omega. Now I actually prefer the 40mm size. I like anything thin and don't mind size just height dimensions.
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Old 2 April 2018, 11:53 AM   #13
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I think they'll move towards smaller sizes again, but I love the current one as is.
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Old 2 April 2018, 12:05 PM   #14
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I suspect the Sub will get redesigned the same way the GMT got redesigned - a barely discernible refinement, but still obviously a super-case design. A new movement with the redesign is a given at this point. When it will happen is anybody's guess, although I'd be surprised if it didn't happen by 2020.
Exactly.

Can't imagine the Sub getting a different case than the new GMT, and the GMT case changes are barely discernible to the point where they are insignificant.
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Old 2 April 2018, 12:10 PM   #15
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They will tweak the case when they put in the 3235 movement. They will probably just thin out the lugs a little.
Really? What about the new GMT?
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Old 2 April 2018, 12:18 PM   #16
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A sightly thinner case would be awesome, as long as they can keep the same water resistance.
But seeing as the new gmt cases barely changed, I don't see it happening.
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Old 2 April 2018, 12:36 PM   #17
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yah...anything new is good.
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Old 2 April 2018, 12:37 PM   #18
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.... at Basel 2019 or perhaps 2020. Slimmer lugs, thinner case and new movement please - that would be the cherry on top.

I’ve owned 4 maxi case references, including PM, and all of them were flipped at some point PURELY due to how the square case looked on my 7” wrist. It always just looked like the watch was wearing me, as opposed to me wearing the watch. And it was frustrating to finally realise it, since they’re all great watches.

For now DJ41 and a soon to be added Tudor Blackbay 58 will keep me satisfied.

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I'd love to see it, but I don't think it'll happen, at least in the near future. I think the GMT "redesign" showed us what we need to know -- that the super case is here to stay, at least in the near term.

Have you tried on or worn a new DaytonaC? I ultimately decided that the super case references weren't for me (7" wrist, same as you) but the Daytona fits like a dream. The lugs are much thinner and the overall case is nicely proportioned. I'd recommend giving it a shot.
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Old 2 April 2018, 12:38 PM   #19
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I'd love to see it, but I don't think it'll happen, at least in the near future. I think the GMT "redesign" showed us what we need to know -- that the super case is here to stay, at least in the near term.



Have you tried on or worn a new DaytonaC? I ultimately decided that the super case references weren't for me (7" wrist, same as you) but the Daytona fits like a dream. The lugs are much thinner and the overall case is nicely proportioned. I'd recommend giving it a shot.


Oh yes? Let me go and try a Daytona at my local AD right now


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Oh yes? Let me go and try a Daytona at my local AD right now


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What about the Yachtmaster 40mm? Those are really sweet and they have slimmer lugs and a smaller case.
https://www.rolex.com/watches/yacht-...l#configurator


New Tudor Black Bay 58 might be an option too.
https://www.tudorwatch.com/watches/n...t/m79030n-0001
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Really? What about the new GMT?
I do have an alternate theory, although I find it unlikely. Rather than keeping the Sub looking like the GMT (which historically it always has, or vice versa), Rolex establishes a "diver DNA" by redesigning the Sub to look more like the Sea Dweller and Deepsea. Then, all divers become a distinct branch, separate from the GMT, which stands on its own with the super-case. My gut tells me that won't happen, and the Sub and GMT will remain fraternal twins. But Rolex does like to change things up from time to time, so who knows?
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To me the larger cases scream "ROLEX LOOK AT ME!"
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Old 2 April 2018, 01:13 PM   #23
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To me the larger cases scream "ROLEX LOOK AT ME!"
Kind of like your font size and color choices?
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Stop waiting and just go for a 5-digit. You can get the best of both worlds with the 16610LV. Maxi dial with the slimmer case.




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Old 2 April 2018, 01:26 PM   #25
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A sightly thinner case would be awesome, as long as they can keep the same water resistance.
But seeing as the new gmt cases barely changed, I don't see it happening.
The 5 digit case was thinner. About 2 mm or so, and I can't see them moving in a backward direction toward 5 digit case measurements. For those unhappy with the current Sub case proportions, better to strap on the 5 digit version instead of waiting and speculating when a major re-design will happen. You may be waiting a long, long time IMO.
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Old 2 April 2018, 01:36 PM   #26
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To me the larger cases scream "ROLEX LOOK AT ME!"
I read your quote and then looked at your profile pic. Same! Lol
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Old 2 April 2018, 01:43 PM   #27
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Nope love the current version.
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Old 2 April 2018, 01:47 PM   #28
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If the slimmer lugs you guys are lusting for then Rolex made the luxury version of the sub its call the YM
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Old 2 April 2018, 01:48 PM   #29
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The 5 digit case was thinner. About 2 mm or so, and I can't see them moving in a backward direction toward 5 digit case measurements. For those unhappy with the current Sub case proportions, better to strap on the 5 digit version instead of waiting and speculating when a major re-design will happen. You may be waiting a long, long time IMO.
I didn't realize the 5-digit subs were that much thinner.

I have smaller wrists. I find my 114060 comfortable to wear, though it is about as large as I'd wear. It took me a week to figure out the correct link sizing.

Now, I have to decide this year, do I add a 214270 or a Black Bay 58 . Or perhaps try a 5-digit reference. I like the maxi dial, not sure about the super case.

I look forward to the next Rolex design for the sub once the model gets its turn for a movement upgrade. I imagine Rolex will carefully consider any changes, and will get it right.
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There are two repetitive threads at the moment

Current subs are horrible
Rolex don't make enough sport SS models

Perhaps they are not making many because they don't feel they will sell because so many people seem to hate them because of these awful lugs?

I love my maxi Sub C. I would probably also love the older versions too.

If you don't like them then fine but I fail to see why starting another thread will help you

As said you can pick up something used if the lugs are so much of a problem
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