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14 October 2014, 06:04 AM
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Rolex 5513 from 1983 - questions
Hello All!
thank you in advance for your help. I could have bought this 5513 from 1983...apparently with papers. But if you have a closer look to its papers, you will see that the watch number has been written and there is any model reported on the paper. Why? Papers are fake? In addition, there is an additional number engraved on the caseback of the watch. Based on seller information, this number has been engraved by the rolex retailer (i.e Astura in Italy...) Could you please help me on both questions? more generally, what do you think about this 5513? thank you. |
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14 October 2014, 06:34 AM
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I am sorry, I do not really understand what exactly you mean.
Bellow is my watch, with its documentation, just for comparison. Yours is a FF, which I do not know if it is correct for the period. If you can give more photos, or explain further what you are asking, people here will be glad to help you. If I see correctly, its a 7,2 serial. Compare with the one bellow, which I bought new so no "changes" have been made to any details.    
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14 October 2014, 07:01 AM
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Not totally sure on your question either, but I have a 1983 5513 myself, SN 827XXXX.
A watch from that time period should have the word SUBMARINER on top of the depth rating, not below. Also looks like the hands and the lume plots are very different colors. I don't know enough to tell you the dial is fake, but I can tell you that it isn't an accurate dial for a 1983 5513. Pretty sure no 5513 after 1978 had Submariner under the depth rating. |
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14 October 2014, 07:18 AM
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Handwritten papers were not uncommon as you can see from George's watch.
The dial in your watch is a non serif dial which would not be correct for a watch from '83 with a 7.2 mil serial. It would be great to see a pic of the case back engraving.
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14 October 2014, 07:32 AM
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I use it with his permission, ( I hope !! ), as to show you what a dial should look like from that era. There is a scratch on the crystal at 3 o' clock ( its not the hour plot ), and some dents on the 1 and 5 hours bezel. 
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14 October 2014, 07:47 AM
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hand written papers for a 5513 are fine from that period ...but not when they are the long chronometer style papers , especially when its a non chronometer rated watch......admittedly could be AD dealer error at point of supply ...but given dial issue as well......keep on walking by.
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14 October 2014, 02:45 PM
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The watch you have posted is not from '83... at least the dial is not. The dial is a non-serif mid 70's dial. The Bezel insert is a service insert. The papers... not sure about but I would definitely be skeptical of this piece if someone is telling you it's from '83
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