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Gnhm3 · 27 July 2016, 10:33 AM

Gentlemen, earlier today I placed a winning bid on an AP Diver for $8300 + $100 shipping from Russia. This is my first big watch purchase and now getting second thoughts of moving forward. Here is the link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/152173678172...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Has anyone purchased a watch like this on Ebay? The price is a little lower than the market rate so I am a little skeptical. The seller says it comes with all boxes and papers. What do you guys think? Thanks for the newbie help!!

mickyd329 · 27 July 2016, 04:32 PM

Personally, I would never buy a watch on Ebay. I would definitely steer clear of anything from Russia. That's just me.

Plastique999 · 27 July 2016, 05:00 PM

Russia??? Uh no

Sent from my 16M

Greg G · 27 July 2016, 05:07 PM

Not the smartest thing you did all day. Seller has only 15 positive reps?

I *might* consider taking the neg hit and not go through with this. You'll have no recourse.

MonBK · 27 July 2016, 05:14 PM

With just one feedback as a seller and a description like this you bought it?

"I had such a genuine watch is used in excellent condition, no scratches or damage. They are cleaned and prepared They are in excellent working condition. The screw head provides protection from moisture.Rubber strap, the clasp is a pin. I reserve the right to end the auction early as they are exhibited in another place. Also, if the price will not be me to arrange. Before you bet ask a question, you can answer with the delay. Payment must be made within 24 hours or I reserve the right to terminate the deal. Return is accepted within 24 hours after receiving in the mail. Good luck!"

Andad · 27 July 2016, 05:42 PM

Russian Roulette IMO.

I really hope this works out ok for you.....

How did you make the payment?

HL65 · 27 July 2016, 07:11 PM

Honestly since you asked what do I think? I think if you send him your money you are out $8300. Good luck...

fai9al · 27 July 2016, 07:12 PM

I am sorry to be the one to break it to you BUT that is a FAKE Diver.

Biggest tell is the date window and font. I hope you didn't pay yet!

eonflux · 27 July 2016, 07:20 PM

And that case back doesn't look right

swatty · 27 July 2016, 07:47 PM

Hope you haven't paid yet

PJ S · 27 July 2016, 08:40 PM

Chewed case back screws, raised heads on bezel, datewheel font (as already pointed out), and inner bezel printing are ALL clear indicators that this is a fake – even before worrying about which part of the world the seller happens to reside in.

KarlS · 27 July 2016, 09:11 PM

$ 250 start price, same few bidders and you bid only once and win with seconds to spare???

Jfbhd4 · 27 July 2016, 09:46 PM

😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬

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Nyquist · 27 July 2016, 10:13 PM

Oh no! Sorry to hear about your eBay bid. The low feedback count of 15 and the fact that the seller is from Russia would have been huge red flags for me. Given the fact that a number of TRF members voiced concern regarding the authenticity of the watch, I hope you didn't proceed with the payment yet. Good luck!

AK797 · 27 July 2016, 10:30 PM

No deal, even if he had put up pics of the real thing most likely these sellers will send you a very accurate looking fake.

lapince · 27 July 2016, 10:49 PM

No wonder why on TRF we often say Fleebay, I personally never ever look for anything there, and especially for watches.
Even if the watch pics were ok, I can't tell you if they are or not, but others which are much better at it than me seem to say it's not, 15 positive feedback and russian seller are HUGE red flags, I really hope you didn't pay yet.

willski · 27 July 2016, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Personally, I would never buy a watch on Ebay. I would definitely steer clear of anything from Russia. That's just me.

Agree and agree. Some people have success on eBay but I don't have any desire to navigate that minefield.

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J_H · 27 July 2016, 11:17 PM

Save up and buy from someone like DavidSW or watches24seven if you don't want to go the AD route!

gummy · 27 July 2016, 11:19 PM

I would rather stop a blender with my tongue...

GoingPlaces · 27 July 2016, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Personally, I would never buy a watch on Ebay. I would definitely steer clear of anything from Russia. That's just me.

100% AGREE. Trusted seller or AD. I don't even look at EBAY.

GB-man · 28 July 2016, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HL65

Honestly since you asked what do I think? I think if you send him your money you are out $8300. Good luck...

agreed

Quote:

Originally Posted by gummy

I would rather stop a blender with my tongue...

MonBK · 28 July 2016, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gummy

I would rather stop a blender with my tongue...

Well, now that you put it this way I must say I'd rather send $8,400 to Russia!

jrs146 · 28 July 2016, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HL65

Honestly since you asked what do I think? I think if you send him your money you are out $8300. Good luck...

This

Remember the age old saying, If it's too good to be true...

Run, Run as fast as you can!

Gnhm3 · 28 July 2016, 02:03 AM

Thanks for the replies everyone. I have not paid yet and obviously will not at this point... Will stay patient and look out for one in the classified section. Thanks again!

Nyquist · 28 July 2016, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnhm3

Thanks for the replies everyone. I have not paid yet and obviously will not at this point... Will stay patient and look out for one in the classified section. Thanks again!

Glad to hear it. Good luck in your search.

Defiancekofb · 28 July 2016, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

No deal, even if he had put up pics of the real thing most likely these sellers will send you a very accurate looking fake.

This. And the seller is in Russia, so pretty much all of your buyer protections from eBay & PayPal would be non existent. There are some good buys on eBay, but make sure the seller is USA based, so at least there is some form of security, if you get sold a fake watch or any type of fake goods.

JD521 · 28 July 2016, 04:21 AM

Yeah, this has bad news written all over it. Glad to hear you have not sent in a payment yet.

Lordofrolex · 28 July 2016, 04:28 AM

He also doesn't have seller reviews. Only buyer review. I almost 100% the person buying this will be screwed.

rolex01 · 28 July 2016, 12:32 PM

I think the watch might not be real...be safe and get it verified. The price is way too low and even the seller bring the watch to any preowned shop would fetch much higher pricing than selling it at such price.

anothernewphone · 28 July 2016, 01:17 PM

LOL at the idea of buying from Russia - NO WAY! I'd only buy from highly-regarded sellers on eBay - not random individuals.

27 July 2016, 10:33 AM	#1
Gnhm3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: CA Posts: 64	Ebay Auction Concerns Gentlemen, earlier today I placed a winning bid on an AP Diver for $8300 + $100 shipping from Russia. This is my first big watch purchase and now getting second thoughts of moving forward. Here is the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/152173678172...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Has anyone purchased a watch like this on Ebay? The price is a little lower than the market rate so I am a little skeptical. The seller says it comes with all boxes and papers. What do you guys think? Thanks for the newbie help!!

27 July 2016, 05:07 PM	#4
Greg G "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Houston Watch: Sub-C Posts: 181	Not the smartest thing you did all day. Seller has only 15 positive reps? I might consider taking the neg hit and not go through with this. You'll have no recourse. __________________ "Whatever watch it is, it's that man's watch and it's very poor form to criticize another man's watch. " GradyPhilpott

27 July 2016, 05:42 PM	#6
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,797	Russian Roulette IMO. I really hope this works out ok for you..... How did you make the payment? __________________ E

27 July 2016, 07:11 PM	#7
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,397	Honestly since you asked what do I think? I think if you send him your money you are out $8300. Good luck... __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

27 July 2016, 07:47 PM	#10
swatty 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,405	Hope you haven't paid yet __________________ 5513, 7928, 1601(gifted to my daughter), 16610LV, 14060, 16610(Random serial),116610, ,79280P, 70330, 25600TB, 792500BM, M56000, 79030B, 25707B/21 (won this special watch),

27 July 2016, 04:32 PM	#2
mickyd329 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Socal Watch: AP/PP/Rolex Posts: 1,778	Personally, I would never buy a watch on Ebay. I would definitely steer clear of anything from Russia. That's just me.

27 July 2016, 05:00 PM	#3
Plastique999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: CA Watch: VC Toledo 1952 Posts: 1,063	Russia??? Uh no Sent from my 16M

27 July 2016, 05:14 PM	#5
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,281	With just one feedback as a seller and a description like this you bought it? "I had such a genuine watch is used in excellent condition, no scratches or damage. They are cleaned and prepared They are in excellent working condition. The screw head provides protection from moisture.Rubber strap, the clasp is a pin. I reserve the right to end the auction early as they are exhibited in another place. Also, if the price will not be me to arrange. Before you bet ask a question, you can answer with the delay. Payment must be made within 24 hours or I reserve the right to terminate the deal. Return is accepted within 24 hours after receiving in the mail. Good luck!"

27 July 2016, 07:12 PM	#8
fai9al "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Jeddah, KSA Posts: 413	I am sorry to be the one to break it to you BUT that is a FAKE Diver. Biggest tell is the date window and font. I hope you didn't pay yet!

27 July 2016, 07:20 PM	#9
eonflux "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SNA Posts: 3,614	And that case back doesn't look right

27 July 2016, 08:40 PM	#11
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	Chewed case back screws, raised heads on bezel, datewheel font (as already pointed out), and inner bezel printing are ALL clear indicators that this is a fake – even before worrying about which part of the world the seller happens to reside in.

27 July 2016, 09:11 PM	#12
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	$ 250 start price, same few bidders and you bid only once and win with seconds to spare???

27 July 2016, 09:46 PM	#13
Jfbhd4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St louis Posts: 347	😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

27 July 2016, 10:13 PM	#14
Nyquist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Canada Watch: AP Royal Oak 15300 Posts: 159	Oh no! Sorry to hear about your eBay bid. The low feedback count of 15 and the fact that the seller is from Russia would have been huge red flags for me. Given the fact that a number of TRF members voiced concern regarding the authenticity of the watch, I hope you didn't proceed with the payment yet. Good luck! __________________ Audemars Piguet 15300 Rolex Air King 14000 M Rolex Submariner 14060 M Tudor Prince Date + Day Omega Speedmaster

27 July 2016, 10:30 PM	#15
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,225	No deal, even if he had put up pics of the real thing most likely these sellers will send you a very accurate looking fake.

27 July 2016, 10:49 PM	#16
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	No wonder why on TRF we often say Fleebay, I personally never ever look for anything there, and especially for watches. Even if the watch pics were ok, I can't tell you if they are or not, but others which are much better at it than me seem to say it's not, 15 positive feedback and russian seller are HUGE red flags, I really hope you didn't pay yet.

27 July 2016, 11:17 PM	#18
J_H "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Real Name: Jeffrey Location: Spartanburg, SC Watch: HULK Posts: 882	Save up and buy from someone like DavidSW or watches24seven if you don't want to go the AD route! __________________ If you live for people's acceptance, you will die from their rejection....

27 July 2016, 11:19 PM	#19
gummy 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: Midwest USA Watch: AP PP Rolex Posts: 3,301	I would rather stop a blender with my tongue...

28 July 2016, 02:03 AM	#24
Gnhm3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: CA Posts: 64	Thanks for the replies everyone. I have not paid yet and obviously will not at this point... Will stay patient and look out for one in the classified section. Thanks again!

28 July 2016, 04:21 AM	#27
JD521 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: John Location: The Bay Posts: 1,055	Yeah, this has bad news written all over it. Glad to hear you have not sent in a payment yet.

28 July 2016, 04:28 AM	#28
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,690	He also doesn't have seller reviews. Only buyer review. I almost 100% the person buying this will be screwed. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

28 July 2016, 12:32 PM	#29
rolex01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 158	I think the watch might not be real...be safe and get it verified. The price is way too low and even the seller bring the watch to any preowned shop would fetch much higher pricing than selling it at such price.

28 July 2016, 01:17 PM	#30
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	LOL at the idea of buying from Russia - NO WAY! I'd only buy from highly-regarded sellers on eBay - not random individuals.

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