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soilwork · 4 November 2015, 09:35 AM

Hi all

I had more or less decided on the 15400 black dial. Went to try it with my Wife. Great service and the lady recommended me to try other models. Bad move

Tried the diver, the roo black theme with the red needles, roc. Really don't like the chronos, I prefer the clean look

The diver actually made my heart sing. It's so comfortable and easy to wear. Love the size and most of all the wrist presence

Still like the 15400 cause of the details and the whole finishing from dial to bracelet is simply outstanding. But i know I can't wear that often.

The Wife is on the 15400 side as she felt I look great with it and she doesn't like the diver cause of the rubber strap. She felt that the strap doesn't look good and commend the price point.

What are your thoughts?

If it helps I have a gmt2C, subC and a pam 372 currently

benlee · 4 November 2015, 09:59 AM

Listen to your wife.

soilwork · 4 November 2015, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by benlee

Listen to your wife.

Actually that's my biggest dilemma haha if I listen to the Wife (WAF), the purchase will be smoother.

benlee · 4 November 2015, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by soilwork

Actually that's my biggest dilemma haha if I listen to the Wife (WAF), the purchase will be smoother.

Well, it sounds like you like both 15400 and 15710 about equally and the wife likes the 15400 better. So no brainer to choose the 15400 so that both of you are happy. Unless you like the 15710 more than you may consider that instead ( but potentially upsetting your wife? ). From some of my friends who go watch shopping with their spouses, it seems WAF ( Wife Acceptance Factor ) does factor into watch purchases depending on the situation, even though she is not the one wearing it. And since you mentioned her opinion in your post, it seems that WAF is a factor for you.

RHIII · 4 November 2015, 10:14 AM

Tough choice - two GREAT - yet different pieces.

I would say it depends what you're looking to get out of it, and what style you prefer.

Or --- you could just get the one your wife likes!!!

15400 - GREAT everyday piece. Classic AP iconic design all around. And you get the iconic RO bracelet. What more do I need to say.

15710 - another great everyday all around piece. (I've done it) a little more casual than the 15400 but still remains versatile. One of the best in the Offshore line and it maintains a lot of the aesthetics of the RO ---

That probably doesn't help. So--- looking at what you have in your collection -- I would go with the 15400. You've got the sport watches pretty much covered (not that the 15400 isn't sporty!) but gives you a slightly dressier option - with the iconic RO style.

Just my .02

Good luck!!!

soilwork · 4 November 2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by benlee

Well, it sounds like you like both 15400 and 15710 about equally and the wife likes the 15400 better. So no brainer to choose the 15400 so that both of you are happy. Unless you like the 15710 more than you may consider that instead ( but potentially upsetting your wife? ). From some of my friends who go watch shopping with their spouses, it seems WAF ( Wife Acceptance Factor ) does factor into watch purchases depending on the situation, even though she is not the one wearing it. And since you mentioned her opinion in your post, it seems that WAF is a factor for you.

Haha I can still do it but she will give me the black face for a while. But of course I don't like to make her unhappy and she is already showing signs that my whole watch thing is abit too much.

soilwork · 4 November 2015, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RHIII

Tough choice - two GREAT - yet different pieces.

I would say it depends what you're looking to get out of it, and what style you prefer.

Or --- you could just get the one your wife likes!!!

15400 - GREAT everyday piece. Classic AP iconic design all around. And you get the iconic RO bracelet. What more do I need to say.

15710 - another great everyday all around piece. (I've done it) a little more casual than the 15400 but still remains versatile. One of the best in the Offshore line and it maintains a lot of the aesthetics of the RO ---

That probably doesn't help. So--- looking at what you have in your collection -- I would go with the 15400. You've got the sport watches pretty much covered (not that the 15400 isn't sporty!) but gives you a slightly dressier option - with the iconic RO style.

Just my .02

Good luck!!!

Thanks for the breaking down. Exact same thoughts I have!

RHIII · 4 November 2015, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by soilwork

Thanks for the breaking down. Exact same thoughts I have!

Al1969 · 4 November 2015, 10:54 AM

Go with the 15400. You and your wife will be happy.

denmanproject · 4 November 2015, 10:55 AM

I've had both and much prefer the 15400 but go with your gut

SMD · 4 November 2015, 11:00 AM

The correct answer is both, but 15400 first. Once you have that you will soon venture off toward the ROO and then its all downhill from there. Well worn path.

jrs146 · 4 November 2015, 11:07 AM

I'm with your wife. I love the look of the diver but just can't get myself to jump on a watch on a rubber strap. I much prefer bracelets or leather.

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Lordofrolex · 4 November 2015, 11:11 AM

15400 for sure. No question about it.

The good thing about the 15400 is it can be dressed up i see many people who wear suits everyday wear a 15400. And its very shiny and pretty flashy compared to your other collection models.

To be honest when looking at your collection you have a lot of steel sport watches. Have you thought about maybe going gold or buying something a little more dressy such as a DD36,DDII,DD40?

1st amg · 4 November 2015, 11:39 AM

You could always get the diver and add a SS bracelet to it, the you have the one you love and have the bracelet for the wife to be content with.

soilwork · 4 November 2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

15400 for sure. No question about it.

The good thing about the 15400 is it can be dressed up i see many people who wear suits everyday wear a 15400. And its very shiny and pretty flashy compared to your other collection models.

To be honest when looking at your collection you have a lot of steel sport watches. Have you thought about maybe going gold or buying something a little more dressy such as a DD36,DDII,DD40?

Ah actually that was in my thought ( in another thread) but that will will be another Rolex. I am more keen on exploring a different brand at the moment hence looking at AP

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masterkiller · 4 November 2015, 09:40 PM

Based on that that you already have several steel watches go with the Diver!

Cru Jones · 4 November 2015, 10:06 PM

listen to your wife, start with the 15400 and then add the diver later.

jjnd08 · 4 November 2015, 11:20 PM

Go with the 15400 first, and then add the diver later when you can; that's what I'm trying to do.

I went 15400 first because:
- my wife also liked it bettter
- the watch is more suited to an office environment (and slips under a shirt cuff better)
- more details in the tapesstrie dial on the 15400 since they updated the diver
- you get the AP bracelet, which is the BEST on the market.

It's currently my only watch, so I wouldn't worry about that being a concern. I think you are less likely to scratch the bezel than you would be on the diver since the diver sits higher off the wrist - more chances to hit it on something.

RHIII · 4 November 2015, 11:37 PM

You honestly can't go 'wrong' with either.

They are both great pieces and the Diver is a GREAT piece to enter the AP world with. And many do. (I was one of them) and my daily now is a ROC.

They are both very versatile (in my opinion) --- some will debate and say the Diver is less versatile than the 15400 -- to each their own.

You could add the bracelet to the Diver as well --- and that gives you more options.

Key thing is here --- make sure you buy the one that YOU really want --- that's what matters --- you have two great choices on the table here.

Besides...as many will attest...once you have one...you're going to want another!!!

Cheers

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Wenga · 5 November 2015, 12:46 AM

You can always get the bracelet.

Regards Bastian

Wenga · 5 November 2015, 12:48 AM

But look out , it gets heavy

Regards Bastian

beer · 5 November 2015, 01:42 AM

buy the diver then after a year or so of her having to put up with looking at it, suggest maybe adding the 15400

sirish19 · 5 November 2015, 01:56 AM

I agree with others that the 15400 would be a better entry into AP and a better compliment to your collection. True, it is another steel sports watch but the RO bracelet is a work of art. I was very close to pulling the trigger on the 15400 but had a chance to get my hands on a 15202 and couldn't pass it up.

Besides, you've got to milk that WAF while you can. I figure your watch collection = WAF +1 so if you go with the 15400, you've got at least one more in your pocket.

Good luck and we'll look forward to the incoming.

jack81 · 5 November 2015, 02:22 AM

My suggestion is this ☺

beer · 5 November 2015, 03:10 AM

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My suggestion is this ☺

awesome watch

soilwork · 5 November 2015, 03:17 AM

Thanks all. I think i am sold on the 15400! I just really like the whole classic feel of it and the finish just amaze me!

On the other side, once i pass the WAF for this one, flipping can be an option further down the road hehehe

The RG looks fantastic!! But not at the moment as i know my grail RG watch would be the Daytona RG black dial ( maybe one day!)

AK797 · 5 November 2015, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by denmanproject

I've had both and much prefer the 15400 but go with your gut

Great pic of the bracelet.

4 November 2015, 09:35 AM	#1
soilwork "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Singapore Watch: Rollie ftw! Posts: 70	15400 vs 15710 Hi all I had more or less decided on the 15400 black dial. Went to try it with my Wife. Great service and the lady recommended me to try other models. Bad move Tried the diver, the roo black theme with the red needles, roc. Really don't like the chronos, I prefer the clean look The diver actually made my heart sing. It's so comfortable and easy to wear. Love the size and most of all the wrist presence Still like the 15400 cause of the details and the whole finishing from dial to bracelet is simply outstanding. But i know I can't wear that often. The Wife is on the 15400 side as she felt I look great with it and she doesn't like the diver cause of the rubber strap. She felt that the strap doesn't look good and commend the price point. What are your thoughts? If it helps I have a gmt2C, subC and a pam 372 currently

4 November 2015, 10:54 AM	#9
Al1969 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,614	Go with the 15400. You and your wife will be happy. __________________ WG SUB-116719 GMT MASTER II 126719

4 November 2015, 11:07 AM	#12
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,821	I'm with your wife. I love the look of the diver but just can't get myself to jump on a watch on a rubber strap. I much prefer bracelets or leather. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

4 November 2015, 11:11 AM	#13
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,690	15400 for sure. No question about it. The good thing about the 15400 is it can be dressed up i see many people who wear suits everyday wear a 15400. And its very shiny and pretty flashy compared to your other collection models. To be honest when looking at your collection you have a lot of steel sport watches. Have you thought about maybe going gold or buying something a little more dressy such as a DD36,DDII,DD40? __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

4 November 2015, 09:40 PM	#16
masterkiller "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex, AP & PAM... Posts: 1,403	Based on that that you already have several steel watches go with the Diver! __________________ Rolex - SubC... AP - Diver... Panerai - PAM380 Omega - Speedy PRO

4 November 2015, 09:59 AM	#2
benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,873	Listen to your wife.

4 November 2015, 10:14 AM	#5
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	Tough choice - two GREAT - yet different pieces. I would say it depends what you're looking to get out of it, and what style you prefer. Or --- you could just get the one your wife likes!!! 15400 - GREAT everyday piece. Classic AP iconic design all around. And you get the iconic RO bracelet. What more do I need to say. 15710 - another great everyday all around piece. (I've done it) a little more casual than the 15400 but still remains versatile. One of the best in the Offshore line and it maintains a lot of the aesthetics of the RO --- That probably doesn't help. So--- looking at what you have in your collection -- I would go with the 15400. You've got the sport watches pretty much covered (not that the 15400 isn't sporty!) but gives you a slightly dressier option - with the iconic RO style. Just my .02 Good luck!!!

4 November 2015, 10:55 AM	#10
denmanproject "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Wayne Location: Canada Posts: 4,370	I've had both and much prefer the 15400 but go with your gut

4 November 2015, 11:00 AM	#11
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,663	The correct answer is both, but 15400 first. Once you have that you will soon venture off toward the ROO and then its all downhill from there. Well worn path.

4 November 2015, 11:39 AM	#14
1st amg 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: nicholas Location: ottawa canada Watch: Rolex,AP,Panerai Posts: 9,517	You could always get the diver and add a SS bracelet to it, the you have the one you love and have the bracelet for the wife to be content with.

4 November 2015, 10:06 PM	#17
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,536	listen to your wife, start with the 15400 and then add the diver later.

4 November 2015, 11:20 PM	#18
jjnd08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 8,605	Go with the 15400 first, and then add the diver later when you can; that's what I'm trying to do. I went 15400 first because: - my wife also liked it bettter - the watch is more suited to an office environment (and slips under a shirt cuff better) - more details in the tapesstrie dial on the 15400 since they updated the diver - you get the AP bracelet, which is the BEST on the market. It's currently my only watch, so I wouldn't worry about that being a concern. I think you are less likely to scratch the bezel than you would be on the diver since the diver sits higher off the wrist - more chances to hit it on something. __________________ ---------------------- Instagram: watchesandchickensandwiches

4 November 2015, 11:37 PM	#19
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	15400 vs 15710 You honestly can't go 'wrong' with either. They are both great pieces and the Diver is a GREAT piece to enter the AP world with. And many do. (I was one of them) and my daily now is a ROC. They are both very versatile (in my opinion) --- some will debate and say the Diver is less versatile than the 15400 -- to each their own. You could add the bracelet to the Diver as well --- and that gives you more options. Key thing is here --- make sure you buy the one that YOU really want --- that's what matters --- you have two great choices on the table here. Besides...as many will attest...once you have one...you're going to want another!!! Cheers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 November 2015, 12:46 AM	#20
Wenga "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Denmark Posts: 60	You can always get the bracelet. Regards Bastian

5 November 2015, 12:48 AM	#21
Wenga "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Denmark Posts: 60	But look out , it gets heavy Regards Bastian

5 November 2015, 01:42 AM	#22
beer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Watch Dealer atm! Watch: all Posts: 2,800	buy the diver then after a year or so of her having to put up with looking at it, suggest maybe adding the 15400 __________________

5 November 2015, 01:56 AM	#23
sirish19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Stephen Location: Tokyo Watch: PP-VC-AP Posts: 1,003	I agree with others that the 15400 would be a better entry into AP and a better compliment to your collection. True, it is another steel sports watch but the RO bracelet is a work of art. I was very close to pulling the trigger on the 15400 but had a chance to get my hands on a 15202 and couldn't pass it up. Besides, you've got to milk that WAF while you can. I figure your watch collection = WAF +1 so if you go with the 15400, you've got at least one more in your pocket. Good luck and we'll look forward to the incoming. __________________

5 November 2015, 03:17 AM	#26
soilwork "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Singapore Watch: Rollie ftw! Posts: 70	Thanks all. I think i am sold on the 15400! I just really like the whole classic feel of it and the finish just amaze me! On the other side, once i pass the WAF for this one, flipping can be an option further down the road hehehe The RG looks fantastic!! But not at the moment as i know my grail RG watch would be the Daytona RG black dial ( maybe one day!)

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