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Old 9 November 2023, 05:04 AM   #1
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AP RD2 vs PP 3700/1A

I am thinking of consolidating some watches into one of the below - I love thin watches!

Leaning towards the 3700 as the more economical (cringe as I say that but it’s 50k cheaper) and practical option (waterproof). Anyone swim with their 3700 on?

6.75in wrist

My only other watches would be an RM 72ti and a Pepsi 16710 (my sentimental do anything watch).

If I bought the AP, I would go for a Patek dress watch in a few years. If I bought the Patek, I would go Journe or Vacheron for my dress piece.









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Old 9 November 2023, 05:26 AM   #2
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Totally different pieces. I feel that that model AP is head and shoulders above the Patek in question, in every single way
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Old 9 November 2023, 05:54 AM   #3
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Totally different pieces. I feel that that model AP is head and shoulders above the Patek in question, in every single way

Cross posted this on both forums to see both takes! big fan of both brands

AP was my first love, but they are also everywhere where I live. The nautilus feels a little more special in that regard


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Old 9 November 2023, 06:03 AM   #4
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Totally different pieces. I feel that that model AP is head and shoulders above the Patek in question, in every single way
I have to agree. That AP is next level…wish I had one.
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Old 9 November 2023, 06:20 AM   #5
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Definitely the AP for me - the RD models are something special if you can get your hands on one, and it has a perpetual calendar complication vs just time & date on the PP. Also I’m obviously biased, but I prefer the design of the RO over the Nautilus (the RO was the original design after all)!


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Old 9 November 2023, 06:24 AM   #6
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RD 2. No comparison here. IMO


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Old 9 November 2023, 08:00 AM   #7
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How about throwing a 4300V WG in the mix?

ultra thin, special dial, don't see them everywhere, meaningfully cheaper
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Old 9 November 2023, 08:48 AM   #8
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How about throwing a 4300V WG in the mix?

ultra thin, special dial, don't see them everywhere, meaningfully cheaper

The skeleton option is interesting as well + the strap options are solid

I just can’t get past the bracelet personally. I would go Vacheron 222 instead for even less and just wear it everywhere


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Old 9 November 2023, 08:49 AM   #9
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I have to agree. That AP is next level…wish I had one.

Wish I had the disposable for both !


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Old 9 November 2023, 08:49 AM   #10
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RD 2. No comparison here. IMO


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Old 9 November 2023, 08:49 AM   #11
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Definitely the AP for me - the RD models are something special if you can get your hands on one, and it has a perpetual calendar complication vs just time & date on the PP. Also I’m obviously biased, but I prefer the design of the RO over the Nautilus (the RO was the original design after all)!


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Have you tried one on? If so what’s your wrist size?


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Old 9 November 2023, 03:36 PM   #12
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3700 here, absolutely no comparison to be made.
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Old 9 November 2023, 03:51 PM   #13
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I've tried on a RD2 multiple times, I wanted to love it, especially from the photos and walked away underwhelmed. Hated the polished bezel with the rest of the watch being brushed, looked out of place. Titanium is a darker metal in the flesh, to me, it looked too dark/dirty and doesn't have the same effect SS/WG has, especially WG. It also felt too light on the wrist, I realize that was the point but I prefer a watch of substance otherwise it feels too delicate. Lastly, I much prefer the guilloche dial to the smooth one here, the original RD2 had a guilloche dial which IMO look better. The only AP I have liked with the smooth dial is the 15202PT.

Anyways, I can appreciate the modern marvel and technological achievement the RD2 is which combined with the movement I still think is a better choice than the 3700. Personally, more apples to apples, I would take a 5740 here.
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Old 9 November 2023, 05:30 PM   #14
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Old 9 November 2023, 11:56 PM   #15
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RD2 in this case. However I'd prefer a 26574 (normal AP perpetual) in steel, gold or if you can swing it, platinum or white gold. Just like one of the other posters, the RD2 is something I wanted to like but just not able to. There really is a thing as too thin and the colors/texturing just doesn't feel right to me.
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Old 10 November 2023, 01:18 AM   #16
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3700 here, absolutely no comparison to be made.

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Old 10 November 2023, 01:19 AM   #17
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RD2 in this case. However I'd prefer a 26574 (normal AP perpetual) in steel, gold or if you can swing it, platinum or white gold. Just like one of the other posters, the RD2 is something I wanted to like but just not able to. There really is a thing as too thin and the colors/texturing just doesn't feel right to me.

White gold with burgundy dial is insane

Same with the pt with ice dial as well


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Old 10 November 2023, 01:22 AM   #18
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I've tried on a RD2 multiple times, I wanted to love it, especially from the photos and walked away underwhelmed. Hated the polished bezel with the rest of the watch being brushed, looked out of place. Titanium is a darker metal in the flesh, to me, it looked too dark/dirty and doesn't have the same effect SS/WG has, especially WG. It also felt too light on the wrist, I realize that was the point but I prefer a watch of substance otherwise it feels too delicate. Lastly, I much prefer the guilloche dial to the smooth one here, the original RD2 had a guilloche dial which IMO look better. The only AP I have liked with the smooth dial is the 15202PT.

Anyways, I can appreciate the modern marvel and technological achievement the RD2 is which combined with the movement I still think is a better choice than the 3700. Personally, more apples to apples, I would take a 5740 here.

I understand the guilloche dial is probably much more expensive

As for considering the 5740, I’ve given that piece some thought as well but would end up keeping my 5712/1a + 15202st instead (the pieces I’m considering consolidating)

The 3700 and RD2 feel like more substantial moves for some reason. Would kill for a 5740 electric dial color on a steel piece though.


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White gold with burgundy dial is insane

Same with the pt with ice dial as well


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The burgundy is a sight to behold. Also AP white gold is beautiful. It’s very white and not gray colored like a lot of other white gold variations out there.
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RD2 is maybe not the prettiest AP QP, but an impressive technical achievement. Seems a bit of an non-obvious choice to consider next to the 3700, where the interest comes from a historical POV.

Compared to the 3700, buying a beat-up early 5402 and have AP do a full restoration would be my (much cheaper) choice.
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Old 10 November 2023, 03:26 AM   #21
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I would not think the vintage patek has better water resistance... no way.

The only thing that the Nautilus has is that it's already quite banged up, so you can wear it without a care.
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Old 10 November 2023, 04:28 AM   #22
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I would not think the vintage patek has better water resistance... no way.

The only thing that the Nautilus has is that it's already quite banged up, so you can wear it without a care.

Believe it’s 10ATM


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Old 10 November 2023, 05:00 AM   #23
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Though I like ROs more than Nautilus generally, I’d go 3700

Classic piece and one of my favorite Pateks. RD2 is cool but doesn’t do much for me, particularly at that price, and not a fan of the polished bezel
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Old 10 November 2023, 10:39 AM   #24
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Rd2 is far more interesting to look at
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The burgundy is a sight to behold. Also AP white gold is beautiful. It’s very white and not gray colored like a lot of other white gold variations out there.
AP WG is the best in the game. Period.
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RD2 is stunning. Wow.
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