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BASSETHOUNDS · 20 February 2010, 03:10 AM

Look at that dial ! the Rolex crown is stuck to the text , all the rest looks wrong as well
http://cgi.ebay.fr/MONTRE-ROLEX-DAYT...#ht_500wt_1182

TheBluePrince · 20 February 2010, 03:46 AM

Not sure about this. Crown does indeed look too low.

Seller claims the el primero movement modified by Rolex and will provide more pics on request....and i have requested!

50/50 over this for now...

BASSETHOUNDS · 20 February 2010, 05:26 AM

Not only the crow is too low , hands are wrong too .
It is fake !

TheBluePrince · 20 February 2010, 05:34 AM

He's sent me pics, quite a few high-res, It's a Franken.There are the 4 markers between the 5 min markers.

It has got an El Primero movement with at least the Rolex rotor on it. The rest of the parts aren't upto that standard though. The bracelet is genuine also but a really old one, totally wrong for the model.

BASSETHOUNDS · 20 February 2010, 05:42 AM

That dial is wrong !

TheBluePrince · 20 February 2010, 05:48 AM

Yep. Strange to spend so much on a correct size case, real el Primero movement etc then put a bad dial and the wrong bracelet on it. Genuine correct dials are easily available as are bracelets.

My French isn't good enough to start telling/asking the seller about all that though!

BASSETHOUNDS · 20 February 2010, 06:01 AM

Can you post the pictures of the movement , is it a 4030 ?
this is a 4 marker dial that should be on X reg .

TheBluePrince · 20 February 2010, 06:14 AM

Not gonna post someone elses pics without their permission.

No, it wasn't a 4030. It was an older El Primero from another brand with a Rolex stamped rotor on.

I think the dial may be real but a used repaired/retouched one, hence the crown being too low.

BASSETHOUNDS · 20 February 2010, 07:02 AM

At least we can safely say it is a "frankenwatch" with some dodgy parts . I have seen listings pulled for much less .( I was wrong about the markers on the X reg and it's dial )

BASSETHOUNDS · 20 February 2010, 06:27 PM

Dave , you omitted that fungus frankenwatch : We have seen privatly some more more pictures . It has a modified primero in it , but not the caliber required no make it genuine . Any way that dial and hands are a joke

idk01 · 20 February 2010, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Dave , you omitted that fungus frankenwatch : We have seen privatly some more more pictures . It has a modified primero in it , but not the caliber required no make it genuine . Any way that dial and hands are a joke

Absolutely Tristan!

here is the genuine, or at least a close one:

BASSETHOUNDS · 21 February 2010, 05:15 PM

That thing is still there :
Not only the dial and hands are completely wrong : seller states it is fitted with Zénith calibre 3019 PHC where it should be 4030 in a 16520

idk01 · 21 February 2010, 05:26 PM

Time for a prod

Earl Camembert · 21 February 2010, 05:46 PM

When in doubt the seller must be a hard core watch uber-geek. If one thinks one is going to get a steel from a 3 feed back fool you deserve what you get.

idk01 · 21 February 2010, 06:35 PM

Gone

Cette annonce (280467461991) a été supprimée, ou l'objet n'est pas disponible.

21 February 2010, 05:26 PM	#13
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Time for a prod __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

21 February 2010, 06:35 PM	#15
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Gone Cette annonce (280467461991) a été supprimée, ou l'objet n'est pas disponible. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

20 February 2010, 03:46 AM	#2
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	Not sure about this. Crown does indeed look too low. Seller claims the el primero movement modified by Rolex and will provide more pics on request....and i have requested! 50/50 over this for now...

20 February 2010, 05:26 AM	#3
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Not only the crow is too low , hands are wrong too . It is fake !

20 February 2010, 05:34 AM	#4
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	He's sent me pics, quite a few high-res, It's a Franken.There are the 4 markers between the 5 min markers. It has got an El Primero movement with at least the Rolex rotor on it. The rest of the parts aren't upto that standard though. The bracelet is genuine also but a really old one, totally wrong for the model.

20 February 2010, 05:42 AM	#5
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	That dial is wrong !

20 February 2010, 05:48 AM	#6
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	Yep. Strange to spend so much on a correct size case, real el Primero movement etc then put a bad dial and the wrong bracelet on it. Genuine correct dials are easily available as are bracelets. My French isn't good enough to start telling/asking the seller about all that though!

20 February 2010, 06:14 AM	#8
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	Not gonna post someone elses pics without their permission. No, it wasn't a 4030. It was an older El Primero from another brand with a Rolex stamped rotor on. I think the dial may be real but a used repaired/retouched one, hence the crown being too low.

20 February 2010, 07:02 AM	#9
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	At least we can safely say it is a "frankenwatch" with some dodgy parts . I have seen listings pulled for much less .( I was wrong about the markers on the X reg and it's dial )

20 February 2010, 06:27 PM	#10
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Dave , you omitted that fungus frankenwatch : We have seen privatly some more more pictures . It has a modified primero in it , but not the caliber required no make it genuine . Any way that dial and hands are a joke

21 February 2010, 05:15 PM	#12
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	That thing is still there : Not only the dial and hands are completely wrong : seller states it is fitted with Zénith calibre 3019 PHC where it should be 4030 in a 16520

21 February 2010, 05:46 PM	#14
Earl Camembert Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,858	When in doubt the seller must be a hard core watch uber-geek. If one thinks one is going to get a steel from a 3 feed back fool you deserve what you get.

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