Best Vintage Rolex Investment you should buy now.

[1watch]

Condition on any vintage piece is what drives value. A higher quality reference is worth more than a lesser condition same reference with box and papers.

The earlier poster who also commented about the Tudor is grossly misinformed. In house movements were a bigger deal a decade + ago. Today, most manufacturers have vertically integrated and make their own movements, so it’s not a differentiator to the degree it once was in the past. For example, some crazy collectible Patek’s, Vacherons and AP’s have ebauche movements from JLC. AND...the Uber cool 6263 has a Valjoux movement.


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[icecream]

Double reds are looking like a good buy right now if you can find under 40k with perfect dial

[zapokee]

Originally Posted by bayareabuggs

I dunno, vintage tudors are neat and all, but they have crumby eta movements in them.

[facepalm]

[L.K Johnson]

As a couple of you mentioned this model will go up more in value. Bought this one about 4-5 years back for 2250 USD with full set and now they trade at around 5500 with full set...that’s a pretty hefty lift percentage wise...wonder if the 17014 has a related price curve to the AP Royal Oak prices...?

[carl5]

Derby, what are those?

[Juan Luis]

The DJ 1630 automatic with the case used for the Oysterquartz is something I would like to acquire some time.

[ronricks]

Models I think would be good buys right now:

16800/168000
16700
16760
17000
17014
19018
18038 (stone dials)

[85300353]

I wonder if the price of 1002 will go up any more?

[pea96]

What about the pre-daytonas, not that many made. Also how about the 1680/8 yellow gold subs?

[springer]

Originally Posted by pea96

What about the pre-daytonas, not that many made. Also how about the 1680/8 yellow gold subs?

Those are great "investment" watches for anyone with deep pockets. Most collectors do not have that type of cash sitting around for high grade high dollar investment watches.

[Pocosso]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Models I think would be good buys right now:

16800/168000
16700
16760
17000
17014
19018
18038 (stone dials)

The 16760 already got a numb, I agree that it will go up but probably slowly.

D.


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[nolesrule101]

I see this reference increasing in price significantly. It was only produced for 3 years, it is the last SD in 40mm and the last one without a cyclops.

[FrenchBigCrown]

Originally Posted by nolesrule101

I see this reference increasing in price significantly. It was only produced for 3 years, it is the last SD in 40mm and the last one without a cyclops.

I think this is a good call.

Also pre-ceramic Subs (16610, 14060 4-liners) - I can see their prices rising. Especially 'unworn' stuff.

[interestedwatcher]

Any Tudor submariners or snowflakes in good condition. My dark horse is the modern turnograph in 30 years.

[Toronto Soup King]

Betcha the new AK turns into a stealth winner. But "investment", no. And IMO unless you are in the business, it's best to only buy watches you're going to wear! Which is why I'm not buying that AK.

[RolexBrian]

#Gilt Sub

[spirinellio]

Originally Posted by Pocosso

The 16760 already got a numb, I agree that it will go up but probably slowly.

D.


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savvy observation. the 16700s have gone up quite a bit in the last 2 yrs. The challenge with vintage is making sure you know you've got the entire watch with the correct time period dial, hands, etc

[kip595]

I think that as I wear everything I own, for me the later 5513s and the 116600 are the 'investment' pieces that interest me right now, if at the right price/place/time etc.

All my watches are bought because I enjoy them, but I am happy to say I've never lost money on selling one. Broken even many times, but what else can you say that about that you also get to use as much as you want? Certainly not the vast majority of new cars and the like.

Now that said, MAN do I kick myself for passing up a minty 16520 from the 80s a few years ago. Both boxes, full kit, asking price under 12k at the time, and I decided 'nah, I'd rather have the 'Vette...think I spent more on parts alone for that car - which ended up selling at a loss - than the Daytona ever would have in total, even if it ever needed a full service.

Alas, the mercurial joy of hobbies.

*IMHO; there's a lot of value in Tudor's older models right now, but more of a crapshoot to determine what the market will be like. A Prince Date, for instance, will in most iterations only go so high before most people ask themselves, "...for this money and the same basic design I could have it say 'Rolex' on the dial..." A few, like the Tudor Subs, are becoming their own niche, which makes sense to me. To use my earlier hobby of cars for an example, having a '57 Chevy Corvette just isn't the same as having a '57 Bel Air convertible, even if the parent company is the same. Just my two cents there.

[Dynoso]

It seems everyone is forgetting the 1530 no?

Low production numbers, amazing look, nice story behind it but nearly completely ignored by collectors.

IMHO there is a lot of value there

[roh123]

Originally Posted by Dynoso

It seems everyone is forgetting the 1530 no?

Low production numbers, amazing look, nice story behind it but nearly completely ignored by collectors.

IMHO there is a lot of value there

Nearly no demand. Kind of important in an investment view. :)

[fishingbear]

I like these complete sets long term but love to enjoy wearing them in the meantime.

[Tavli3]

Low production numbers is only 1 piece of the puzzle, look at the 168000, only made for 9 months and they can be had for a song compared to other highly produced subs.

I think the 35mm size is what holding the 1503 back, just not as desirable. That's an important factor often overlooked, you and 3 other people can't be the only ones lusting after the watch for it to be valuable.

[Andjwhite]

Late 80s 5513, and tritium 16600. Since these are the only models I own and I love them both... ha. I would like a tritium GMT in the collection as well... w WG surroundings or 1675. Either one as long as the condition is top.

[Tavli3]

Originally Posted by Andjwhite

Late 80s 5513, and tritium 16600. Since these are the only models I own and I love them both... ha. I would like a tritium GMT in the collection as well... w WG surroundings or 1675. Either one as long as the condition is top.

Love the honesty, don't we all want whats in our collections to be the next classic collectors item!

[harry in montreal]

Dare I say the 89190 tudor hydronaught ? Full sized fun for $1500+

[roh123]

Weird thread about everyone hoping that their stuff will gain in value. Wouldn’t it be more interesting to actually talk about watches as an actual investment? And investments are rarely 1-3k opportunities.

Personally I would like prices to go back. The hobby was way more fun when nice watches were cheaper. Then it was more about passion. I do respect todays levels but I don’t necessarily like them. I’m not rich enough for my taste in watches. ;)

If we are to talk about investments and not possible bargains I would say that high quality pieces from the 50’s and 60’s stand out as the design is vintage but yet fairly contemporary. Hard to find watches in great condition will continue to be in demand and availability will not increase. From the 70’s and forward most models are quite common and even the today less desiresble ones aren’t rare and wont move much. Most prices for 70’s, 80’s and 90’s watches move with modern prices or when high-end stuff goes up further. I would not invest in such things that don’t stand on their own.

[jaychief]

Kermit

[swish77]

It's simple ... in art and vintage watches, buy what you love and hope for the best. If you have good taste, you'll do well.

Personally, I love pretty much all 1970s sport Rolexes, especially DRSDs and "Big Red" Daytonas. That's when I was a kid and they speak to me for some reason much more than the 1960s and gilt-dial Rolexes.

In general, any vintage sport Rolex in great condition, regardless of decade, will continue to rise in value. That's what history tells us anyway.

[Dan S]

I'm sad that this thread was revived.

[Kingface66]

Originally Posted by Dan S

I'm sad that this thread was revived.

Agree, Dan.