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MCMartiny · 12 August 2018, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverFoxUK

Is the 5164 worth such a hefty premium over the 5167? £14,510 vs £26,050 in the UK. Both seem to be lovely watches, but do owners think it's worth it to have the 5164?

Yes, personally I think the extra heft and the added Travel Time complication (Patek is about complications IMHO) makes it all worth it for me.

Is a Patek worth the premium over say a Lange, a JLC or a Rolex - or even a VC or an AP? Objectively probably not, but it is in the eye of the beholder.

Your question is highly theoretical in any case as we all know that the 5167 is very difficult to get at retail and carries a large price premium in the secondary market (higher % uplift vs. 5164).

Hermann · 13 August 2018, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverFoxUK

Is the 5164 worth such a hefty premium over the 5167? £14,510 vs £26,050 in the UK. Both seem to be lovely watches, but do owners think it's worth it to have the 5164?

I have a 5167A it was my first Patek, when you want only to own one Patek than the 5167 is a good choice.
In my case it takes also a few years to know that the price is not everything.
The Aquanaut Trevel Time is the best Aquanaut regardless of price.

AK797 · 13 August 2018, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverFoxUK

Is the 5164 worth such a hefty premium over the 5167? £14,510 vs £26,050 in the UK. Both seem to be lovely watches, but do owners think it's worth it to have the 5164?

It was a hurdle for me and many others for a time, but then once resales started rising on these it made the delta much easier to stomach and now the 5164 is selling for £32/3K.

metdrdg · 13 August 2018, 03:48 AM

Does the 5164 wear significantly larger than the 5167. Would like to get on the list for one but not sure if my 6 3/4” wrist is enough for the 5164. Unfortuntely there’s nowhere to try one

GB-man · 13 August 2018, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by metdrdg

Does the 5164 wear significantly larger than the 5167. Would like to get on the list for one but not sure if my 6 3/4” wrist is enough for the 5164. Unfortuntely there’s nowhere to try one

You should be fine with that wrist size. It’s a bit thicker and wider due to the pushers.

goog53 · 13 August 2018, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by metdrdg

Does the 5164 wear significantly larger than the 5167. Would like to get on the list for one but not sure if my 6 3/4” wrist is enough for the 5164. Unfortuntely there’s nowhere to try one

It will wear fine with your wrist size. Congrats in advance

V25V · 13 August 2018, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by metdrdg

Does the 5164 wear significantly larger than the 5167. Would like to get on the list for one but not sure if my 6 3/4” wrist is enough for the 5164. Unfortuntely there’s nowhere to try one

I agree with the others and think you would be fine. I have a 7" wrist, which is close. I posted a pic above.

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VICI · 13 August 2018, 08:58 AM

Thanks for all the comments... will be posting pics of the incoming this week!

GB-man · 13 August 2018, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by VICI

Thanks for all the comments... will be posting pics of the incoming this week!

Congratulations in advance

TimeOnHand · 13 August 2018, 12:25 PM

Absolutely awesome watch! Super comfortable ... light weight! Super readability... Travel Time feature is a awesome! Over all wrist presence is fantastic!

Helmi · 13 August 2018, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VICI

Thanks for all the comments... will be posting pics of the incoming this week!

Congratulations. Looking forward for the pics

Rolexavidfan · 13 August 2018, 03:33 PM

What’s not to like about the 5164a?

Price point has become more “palatable” with price increase on the 5711/12 early this year. In fact, secondary price is creeping up.

Good that instead of a date window aperture, the model went for a different date mechanism, common to Patek’s other complicated timepieces.

Globe with a globe from dial to the date mechanism to the rubber strap. That’s clever design!

Rubber strap is way better for me that the Oysterflex which is warm on the wrist.

The 5164a is a practical travel watch. GMT or World Time can’t be compared to the practicality, usefulness and versatility of this watch in a rubber strap.

Lastly, I got mine around 7 months after Baselworld 2012 and love the watch every minute of it.

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RHIII · 14 August 2018, 04:55 AM

It is my favorite - more casual - daily wearer Patek!!! With (for me) a quite useful complication.

Go get it!!!!!

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V25V · 14 August 2018, 04:59 AM

Andy Mcpandy · 17 August 2018, 12:17 AM

I am on the AD list but not sure when it will arrive, certainly thinking of buying on the grey market as prices are increasing.....

CamSLC · 17 August 2018, 03:01 AM

Awesome! The best GMT in my opinion.

Calatrava r · 17 August 2018, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SL BRABUS

What not to like........ Get it before it gone....

This

Rolexavidfan · 17 August 2018, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolexavidfan

What’s not to like about the 5164a?

Price point has become more “palatable” with price increase on the 5711/12 early this year. In fact, secondary price is creeping up.

Good that instead of a date window aperture, the model went for a different date mechanism, common to Patek’s other complicated timepieces.

Globe with a globe from dial to the date mechanism to the rubber strap. That’s clever design!

Rubber strap is way better for me that the Oysterflex which is warm on the wrist.

The 5164a is a practical travel watch. GMT or World Time can’t be compared to the practicality, usefulness and versatility of this watch in a rubber strap.

Lastly, I got mine around 7 months after Baselworld 2012 and love the watch every minute of it.

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Never a second thought of bringing this 5164a on my travel. So versatile and convenient, flies under the radar and practical to wear on hot summer season!

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mdl25 · 27 September 2018, 08:02 AM

The real question is: your AD just called and offered it! How did you swing that?! If you don't want it, I'll take it :)

tchaic · 27 September 2018, 08:16 AM

I’m not convinced it will catch on. More of a fad.

GB-man · 27 September 2018, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tchaic

I’m not convinced it will catch on. More of a fad.

The aquanaut has been a staple for over 2 decades. It’s the only truly sporty watch Patek makes when you get down to it.

Catch on already happened 10 years ago.

tchaic · 27 September 2018, 10:16 AM

Was a joke. I have two.

sapper17 · 27 September 2018, 11:34 PM

The most comfortable watch by far. It doesn't move, it stays where you put it.

Jazzie · 28 September 2018, 01:14 AM

Great watch

Superburrito · 28 September 2018, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

get it before they become less available and/or prices start creeping up.
i believe these two factors are inevitable.

I totally agree. Average asking prices for used 5167 is getting much, much higher (average asking price on Chrono24 right now is $27k). 5164 hasn't really started moving yet but I believe it will follow.

Also, I would not be surprised if PP increases retail prices for the 5167 and 5164.

GB-man · 28 September 2018, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tchaic

Was a joke. I have two.

Whoops I did not pick up on that. Usually when people don't know anything about patek they avert to "the only patek worth buying is the 5711" so I mistakenly placed you in that crowd.

tyler1980 · 28 September 2018, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Superburrito

I totally agree. Average asking prices for used 5167 is getting much, much higher (average asking price on Chrono24 right now is $27k). 5164 hasn't really started moving yet but I believe it will follow.

Also, I would not be surprised if PP increases retail prices for the 5167 and 5164.

to a point i agree. However when i bought my 5712 at retail, it costs less than my 5164 at retail. I love both watches but to me that made no sense. So a price rise cant make the pricing that way again as that was part of the problem with weaker demand i suspect.

catsby90 · 28 September 2018, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by metdrdg

Does the 5164 wear significantly larger than the 5167. Would like to get on the list for one but not sure if my 6 3/4” wrist is enough for the 5164. Unfortuntely there’s nowhere to try one

My wrist is smaller than yours--somewhere around 6.5". Here is my 5164r on wrist. You will be fine. Get the 5164a before it's gone. It's a classic modern Patek and highly sought after.

sameer222 · 28 September 2018, 11:04 PM

Closing in on my 5164a. This one was definitely a slow burner for me, didn't look twice at it when it came out but it started catching my attention about a year ago. It's an extremely versatile and useful package and just all around cool.

jay_kay · 28 September 2018, 11:24 PM

I am very seriously tempted to sell my 5167 and move to a 5164. Love the added complication and after watching the video and now actually understanding how the 2nd time zone feature works its a winner for me.

13 August 2018, 12:25 PM	#40
TimeOnHand "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Hong Kong Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 4,468	Absolutely awesome watch! Super comfortable ... light weight! Super readability... Travel Time feature is a awesome! Over all wrist presence is fantastic! __________________ Instagram: timeonhand1010

13 August 2018, 03:33 PM	#42
Rolexavidfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Har Location: Tukwila, WA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,568	What’s not to like about the 5164a? Price point has become more “palatable” with price increase on the 5711/12 early this year. In fact, secondary price is creeping up. Good that instead of a date window aperture, the model went for a different date mechanism, common to Patek’s other complicated timepieces. Globe with a globe from dial to the date mechanism to the rubber strap. That’s clever design! Rubber strap is way better for me that the Oysterflex which is warm on the wrist. The 5164a is a practical travel watch. GMT or World Time can’t be compared to the practicality, usefulness and versatility of this watch in a rubber strap. Lastly, I got mine around 7 months after Baselworld 2012 and love the watch every minute of it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Go for the timepiece you love. You will save more. ...

28 September 2018, 11:24 PM	#60
jay_kay "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Barrowford Watch: Tudor Black Bay 54 Posts: 1,699	I am very seriously tempted to sell my 5167 and move to a 5164. Love the added complication and after watching the video and now actually understanding how the 2nd time zone feature works its a winner for me. __________________ Rolex Explorer 214270, Omega Speedmaster '1957 Relaunch' 3594.50.00, Panerai Luminor 1950 PAM00127-E, Panerai Radiomir 1936 PAM00249-I, Panerai Mare Nostrum PAM00716-T, Panerai PAM00785-Q Set, Panerai Luminor Black Seal PAM00594-Q, Panerai Luminor Daylight PAM00604-Q, Tudor Black Bay 54 79000N, Heuer Carrera Re-Edition CS3113, Hamilton Military W10 & TAG Heuer F1

13 August 2018, 03:48 AM	#34
metdrdg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Florida Watch: SSDayt, 5711, 5170 Posts: 195	Does the 5164 wear significantly larger than the 5167. Would like to get on the list for one but not sure if my 6 3/4” wrist is enough for the 5164. Unfortuntely there’s nowhere to try one

13 August 2018, 08:58 AM	#38
VICI "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Gotham City Watch: IG: Mr_Right_NYC Posts: 5,672	Thanks for all the comments... will be posting pics of the incoming this week!

14 August 2018, 04:55 AM	#43
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	It is my favorite - more casual - daily wearer Patek!!! With (for me) a quite useful complication. Go get it!!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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17 August 2018, 12:17 AM	#45
Andy Mcpandy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: UK Watch: PP5726, PP5524r Posts: 19	I am on the AD list but not sure when it will arrive, certainly thinking of buying on the grey market as prices are increasing.....

17 August 2018, 03:01 AM	#46
CamSLC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: Rolex & Patek Posts: 1,436	Awesome! The best GMT in my opinion.

27 September 2018, 08:02 AM	#49
mdl25 Banned Join Date: May 2018 Location: California Posts: 36	The real question is: your AD just called and offered it! How did you swing that?! If you don't want it, I'll take it :)

27 September 2018, 08:16 AM	#50
tchaic "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Watch: Tag Heuer 2000 Posts: 490	I’m not convinced it will catch on. More of a fad.

27 September 2018, 10:16 AM	#52
tchaic "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Watch: Tag Heuer 2000 Posts: 490	Was a joke. I have two.

27 September 2018, 11:34 PM	#53
sapper17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Joe Location: NYC Watch: Rolex - Omega Posts: 441	The most comfortable watch by far. It doesn't move, it stays where you put it.

28 September 2018, 01:14 AM	#54
Jazzie Banned Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: United states Posts: 109	Great watch

28 September 2018, 11:04 PM	#59
sameer222 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Earth Watch: PatekRolexAPLange Posts: 196	Closing in on my 5164a. This one was definitely a slow burner for me, didn't look twice at it when it came out but it started catching my attention about a year ago. It's an extremely versatile and useful package and just all around cool.

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