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Old 10 February 2020, 12:19 AM   #1
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1955 Tudor Submariner. Manual wind.

I've just come across a 1955 Tudor Submariner. Ref: 7923 for sale at a specialist auction house in Wiltshire, England.
It's a manual wind model on a non-Tudor bracelet, with what appears to be some nice provenance.
Estimate £30-50,000
It's LOT 64 at GARDINER HOULGATE, Corsham, Wiltsshire. UK. SN13 9SW.

I have no vested interest in this company or the watch, just thought someone here, might be interested.
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Old 10 February 2020, 01:53 AM   #2
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Thank you! Some very interesting watches

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Old 10 February 2020, 02:33 AM   #3
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Wrong hands, fwiw. Likely will affect the end result.

I had a glance through and most of their sales estimates seem low. Like decent datejusts estimated at 1500 pound or ecplorer 2 full sets for 3000 pound.

Sure wish I could get them at those prices.
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Old 10 February 2020, 03:16 AM   #4
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Auction houses always estimate low. It brings in bidders and gives them the hope of getting the item cheap.
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Old 10 February 2020, 06:28 AM   #5
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Donít forget too the estimate is without tax and commissions. Without looking, I would say that is probably about 25% on from the hammer price. Bidders now really have to factor that in


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Old 10 February 2020, 12:15 PM   #6
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Old 10 February 2020, 12:32 PM   #7
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Amazing they keep turning up!
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Old 13 February 2020, 09:14 AM   #8
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Wrong hands, fwiw. Likely will affect the end result.

I had a glance through and most of their sales estimates seem low. Like decent datejusts estimated at 1500 pound or ecplorer 2 full sets for 3000 pound.

Sure wish I could get them at those prices.
This 7923, that sold at auction in 2015 was very similar to the watch in question, having identical Mercedes hands, identical movement and a similarly unusual dial (in that 1, it gives the water-resistance depth in the first place and 2, the depth is not in red).

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...9-a53d00b68137

So I don't think it should be assumed that the hands are wrong for a 7923.

I'm not sure if it is allowed to link to posts on other forums, but I've made a lengthy post about it here:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vint...3-t258569.html
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Old 13 February 2020, 09:42 AM   #9
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Dial is heavily chipped at the bottom half. Still a rare and nice watch but obviously big issues with it. Each to their own though.


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Old 13 February 2020, 09:44 AM   #10
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The chipping is quite bad imo.
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Old 13 February 2020, 03:48 PM   #11
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Damn I didn’t even know there was manual wind Tudor submariner... unique...
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Old 14 February 2020, 09:58 PM   #12
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I dunno guys, the chipping is sad, but i rather this and the nice orig lume plots. Find a cheap set of big paddle hands and you have a nice daily driver (lol)
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