Advices on a 6610

[DSplash]

Thanks for the advice!

To be honest, I put it on hold right now because I can’t figure how to deal with the customs problem.
It would be my first time importing a watch from outside of the EU and the 20% tax, on that kind of money, is kind of killing the deal. I thought a friend would be able to pick it up for me but it won’t be possible, and sending it would need to be with full insurance which would trigger that customs issue...

By the way, The seller is asking for 27k$, does it feel in range?

Thanks!


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[Paul]

Just suddenly, the $27k price tag is probably about right. Assume there's some wriggle room in there though. A couple of things I might say ...

* Asking prices vs. sales price . Asking prices nowadays are just nuts. $100k for a nice 6542 .... $40k for a nice gilt 5513 or 1675 ... when did that happen ? I sold my 6610 for about $9k on VRF about three years ago .... and it took a few go's before I found a buyer .

* Seek dozens of pics if buying on-line. Even better, wait til you find one you can hold in your hand and personally eye-ball before purchase. Most 6610s' display some degree of patina and patina is such an odd thing, and such a personal thing. Very hard to accurately catch in a photo, so you never really know what you are getting ... or if you'll like it ... until you open the box.

* The 6610 Explorer is a real collectors watch and it's only an appropriate choice for seriously cool people. Hoards of less cool people want an old Sub or a GMT ... I dunno why, that's just how it works. So, while the 6610 is a rare watch, there's never a queue of people waiting to buy one. The ones we see on eBay with silly price tags just expire without buyers. Others with similarly silly price tags just get dusty on Chrono24. And I might guess that despite the current hype around gilt Subs and GMTs', the sellers of 6610s' probably still face some serious barter'ing when they do hook a buyer on the line.

Just saying

Originally Posted by DSplash

Thanks for the advice!

To be honest, I put it on hold right now because I can’t figure how to deal with the customs problem.
It would be my first time importing a watch from outside of the EU and the 20% tax, on that kind of money, is kind of killing the deal. I thought a friend would be able to pick it up for me but it won’t be possible, and sending it would need to be with full insurance which would trigger that customs issue...

By the way, The seller is asking for 27k$, does it feel in range?

Thanks!


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[DSplash]

Hi all
I’ve almost given up on the previous watch (and on the general idea of importing a valuable watch from outside of EU...) but the reference still interests me a lot.

I found this one, that looks very nice IMO although pretty different from the other one. The dial seems to have micro cracks instead of the large « burn » marks the other had. It looks objectively less damaged. White lollipop seconds hand is also a nice touch.
And it’s in EU (and less expensive...)

What would you think of this watch and dial? From what I see, the only non original part would be the « -«  crown instead of a « + »  brevet one...
Thanks!



Thanks!


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[DSplash]

Any opinion on this one?
Thanks!


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[Mark020]

For USD 27k I'd do a personal pick up...

[DSplash]

This last one is less expensive and way closer so personal pick up would be possible (3 hrs flight)


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[tenerific]

Originally Posted by Paul

Just suddenly, the $27k price tag is probably about right. Assume there's some wriggle room in there though. A couple of things I might say ...



* Asking prices vs. sales price . Asking prices nowadays are just nuts. $100k for a nice 6542 .... $40k for a nice gilt 5513 or 1675 ... when did that happen ? I sold my 6610 for about $9k on VRF about three years ago .... and it took a few go's before I found a buyer:

This is something I don’t understand either ...



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[tenerific]

Originally Posted by DSplash

Wow! Good to know, thanks, I thought it was a pretty good sign!
I’m surprised it sold below 8k€ though


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PS avoid deal_aussie on Ebay. Well known scammer.


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[DSplash]

Originally Posted by tenerific

PS avoid deal_aussie on Ebay. Well known scammer.


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Thanks for the info, I’ll keep that in mind!

Any thoughts on the last watch I showed?


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[Rolexator]

Originally Posted by DSplash

Hi all
I’ve almost given up on the previous watch (and on the general idea of importing a valuable watch from outside of EU...) but the reference still interests me a lot.

I found this one, that looks very nice IMO although pretty different from the other one. The dial seems to have micro cracks instead of the large « burn » marks the other had. It looks objectively less damaged. White lollipop seconds hand is also a nice touch.
And it’s in EU (and less expensive...)

What would you think of this watch and dial? From what I see, the only non original part would be the « -«  crown instead of a « + »  brevet one...
Thanks!



Thanks!


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The " - " crown is original to the watch. The 6610 can come with the brevet crown or with the " - " crown.

[DSplash]

Originally Posted by Rolexator

The " - " crown is original to the watch. The 6610 can come with the brevet crown or with the " - " crown.

Thanks, I didn’t know that, I thought 50s watches had the + crown






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[frackas]

Originally Posted by DSplash

Any opinion on this one?
Thanks!


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I think it looks pretty great! The only problem I can see is what appears to be damage at the edge of the dial around the 3 o clock marker.

[DSplash]

I think it’s the radium dust that’s missing on the 3 marker


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[waspy1]

Originally Posted by DSplash

I think it’s the radium dust that’s missing on the 3 marker


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No, it’s the bare brass plate showing through. Also quite common. I don’t think it distracts in this case.


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[DSplash]

Hi!

Still on my hunt for a nice 6610

What would you think of this one?
The pictures are not great but that’s all I have for now...
The dial seems glossy and not very damaged so I’m wondering if this is really a 6610 radium dial or if it might be an early 1016. Do early 1016 CR dials look exactly like 6610 ones? Then the only way to know would be the Geiger counter test right?

Also the lugs would seem very polished to me but then again all explorer ones do compared to sub/gmt cases so I can’t say if this is too much in this case...

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[DSplash]

Got an answer from the previous watch’s seller!
The lume reacts to uv but doesn’t stimulate the Geiger counter...What does it mean? Relume? Later tritium 1016 dial?
The watch is supposed to be from 56 according to its serial so it should be radium and the counter should go nuts, no?


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[DSplash]

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[frackas]

It's not completely uncommon to see glossy 6610 dials like this, although the matte, burnt out look is more the norm. It should be very easy to find out if it could be 1016 OCC just by looking between the lugs. But if you say it's from 1956, then 1016 is out of the question.

The lume looks a bit off and I would guess relume on both hands and dial. Just reference the perfect 6610 you posted mid september. What happened to that watch btw?

[DSplash]

Originally Posted by frackas

I. Just reference the perfect 6610 you posted mid september. What happened to that watch btw?

It sold litterally minutes before I was going to go for it! The watch was initially listed at 28k€ which was too much for me...A month later, I asked if something was possible and the seller said 22 was the best he could offer...As the price was in my range I came here to do my homework but it didn’t last long enough!

I don’t really see what’s off with this one’s lume but again, if I knew I wouldn’t need more experienced opinions!




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[77T]

Originally Posted by DSplash

I don’t really see what’s off with this one’s lume but again, if I knew I wouldn’t need more experienced opinions!

I enlarged your photo and circled some areas that show re-luming and/or dial refinishing.

I don’t believe it left the Rolex factory like this. And looking at the dial printing suggests a complete re-do is how that glossy paint got there.





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[sambb]

I have a 6610 needing service! Any recommendations? THANK YOU!

[DSplash]

It’s true that if I compare the typo to the previous ones I showed here, the « c » from chronometer is a little more centered on the « I » above than on these known original models...Were there different dial types on this ref or is this weird??

Enough to convince me not to participate In This auction anyway


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