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Old 10 September 2019, 09:54 AM   #1
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DSSD Real or Fake?

Hey guys, joined here awhile back, obviously havenít been very active yet. Looking to add my first Rolex to the collection. This watch is from a local seller who agreed to meet at an AD for authentication. Has warranty card, box, etc. A few small details just donít look right, aside from the crappy pics. Any feedback appreciated. Thank you.
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Old 10 September 2019, 09:56 AM   #2
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Fake date wheel misaligned


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Old 10 September 2019, 09:57 AM   #3
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At on crystal, date wheel, wrong color titanium ect.......


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Old 10 September 2019, 10:17 AM   #4
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Thank you, I figured as much. There was also some fine detail in the lettering that didn’t seem right.

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Old 10 September 2019, 10:24 AM   #5
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DSSD Real or Fake?

No problem I hate scammers. If you want to do some homework check out repgeek and look at the caliber of the fakes out there. They are not considered fakes anymore they are 1:1 replicas. They have been able to reverse engineer a lot of the more popular models. The one good thing is you can test drive a replica before buying a gen, I donít recommend buying a gen off anyone other than an authorized dealer these days.


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Old 10 September 2019, 10:30 AM   #6
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Through my research (most of today) I came across one of the replica sites. It was $1,600 for the DSSD, but as you said, claimed 1:1, including with the case back off.
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Old 10 September 2019, 10:43 AM   #7
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Yes there are 1:1 replicas all the way down to the movements. The most common is the yuki 3135 they even interchange with gen parts approx 90% the only difference in the replica movements are the balance wheel does not have weights as well as the the balance bridge is two pieces. At first glance it fools jewelers but after detailed inspection you can tell. They even have gone as far as reverse cannon gears. For a good deep sea replica $400-600 with some mods. anything above that is a rip off. I have to educate people mostly pawn shops here in San Diego about these because they are getting burned on mostly submariners.


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Old 10 September 2019, 11:03 AM   #8
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Appreciate the info and your expertise. I definitely don’t want a rep, at any price. I currently have a JLC, Omega, Panerai, Ball, and a Sablier (mistake). Looking to add a Rolex to the collection. Unfortunately, my wife has an aversion to paying retail. Bought all but the Sablier CPO
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Old 10 September 2019, 11:12 AM   #9
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No problem my friend.....Yeah I only use them for educational purposes only. You should be able to find a reputable authorized establishment that will sell pre owned watches. Deep seaís are very common because people often buy them and donít like the size / weight. I love mine but they are a common watch on the preowned market. I would stick with the black dial. I was not to fond on the new blue/black dial. I also own the first gen deep sea. One of my favorite watches. Just a larger submariner. Just big enough but not overboard.


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Old 11 September 2019, 04:35 AM   #10
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I also agree fake
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Old 11 September 2019, 05:18 AM   #11
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Modern Rolex is so common that if you have any reservations about the watch or the seller, just move on to the next seller. The best advice for your first watch is to buy from a trusted local dealer with a return policy. Maybe you will pay a few hundred more sometimes, but that is the best way to go to get started brother.
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Old 11 September 2019, 07:58 AM   #12
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Totally fake. I actually reached out to the seller as I am in Boston as well and I called him out on it after asking a few questions.
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Old 11 September 2019, 08:38 AM   #13
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Whose pictures, his or yours? Because bad pictures is a huge red flag. They intentionally take bad pictures to hide flaws. And with cameras the way they are, there is no excuse for a bad photo anymore.
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