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EdwardC · 23 September 2021, 02:36 AM

I thought I misread but the market price for these 2 is over $20k. Just a dial color, and it's 50% more. I haven't seen the dial in person, is it really that much more attractive?

AshAP · 23 September 2021, 02:44 AM

Blue is rarer and more of an application piece. AP House in London only receive 6 blue dials PA

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Nikrnic · 23 September 2021, 02:45 AM

It's got to be internet hype. The same goes for the Overseas and other brands though not all 50% over.

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fwoomp · 23 September 2021, 02:59 AM

All of the dials are gorgeous, but the blue is on another level imo. That said, $20k is a pretty huge gap. Last year I made almost this exact swap-- I traded a black dial 15500 plus $10k cash for a blue dial. I'm still very happy with that trade, but I'm not sure whether I'd still do it if the delta were $20k.

macrowatch · 23 September 2021, 03:08 AM

It's really exceptional. Not sure I'd pay the premium, but I would say it's at least 50% prettier for this eye of the beholder.

alexlt730512 · 23 September 2021, 03:09 AM

it's all about hype, but out of those four choices that white dial that i think it's more unique, but between the two you mentioned blue is definitely better looking than black.

pav333hp · 23 September 2021, 04:00 AM

Well here are few things to consider:

1. Color itself is a big driving factor in desirability across many things, not watch dials only. Looks at cars for example, rare or more desired colors can fetch $10,000s more for the same exact car.

2. Blue dial is genuinely more beautiful on the 15500 compared to black dial. There is more color, more gradience and just more fun!

3. Some people look at the 15500 in blue as a replacement, upgrade, or consolation piece to the 15202.

macrowatch · 23 September 2021, 06:35 AM

Forgot to add, if you look at the blue dial when the sunlight hits it…wow, beautiful. One of the best.

HMHM · 23 September 2021, 07:58 AM

It’s more simply because it’s a boutique piece (blue dial). Is it really worth 50% over black, silver, grey? HELL NO. If tomorrow AP changes their strategy and make the black dial limited, the black will probably be worth more than the blue. Rarity determines the price.

VogelPhoenix · 23 September 2021, 10:19 AM

I can't decide what to think about the blue dial. Yes, it is very attractive, but relative to e.g. the grey (which I have) how much of that is real, and how much a subconscious reaction to the hype? I probably would trade grey vs blue straight up, but $20k extra is insane (e.g., if both were readily available from AP, but with a $20k premium for blue, I doubt very much many would go for it).

underpar31009 · 23 September 2021, 10:40 AM

The blue dials on the 15400, 15500, and 15202 are simply stunning. Sure it is some hype and definitely exclusivity, but the way the blue changes in different lighting is something else.

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Neming · 23 September 2021, 05:37 PM

Pictures of the 15500 blue dial and next to the 'wet' black dial of the 15703

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EdwardC · 24 September 2021, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Neming

Pictures of the 15500 blue dial and next to the 'wet' black dial of the 15703

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The blue 15500 is definitely stunning. The ROO diver is quite different though so I am not sure how to compare them

GreenLantern · 24 September 2021, 07:43 AM

Pretty sure they make the same amount of Blue dials as Black dials.

It's just that the internet hype machine has made Blue the hot color.

Green tried to make a stand against Blue in 2021, but so far Blue is still winning.

cascavel · 24 September 2021, 08:13 PM

In order to sell watches at their newly opened Boutiques, watch manufacturers had to have a hook and Boutique Exclusives were it. The 15400 blue dial was only available at the AP Boutique. The catch, which seems ironic now, was that there was little or no discount offered. At first you didn't need a history, just a willingness to pay full retail. And there was a wait time, even back then, although it was only 2 months.
For those who were impatient and willing to pay an extra $5K, the boutiques almost always had a 15202st in stock, which was another Boutiques exclusive with a blue dial.
And then they expanded and made the Royal Oak chronograph with blue dial a Boutique Exclusive also, if memory serves.

ramenlover · 24 September 2021, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Pretty sure they make the same amount of Blue dials as Black dials.

It's just that the internet hype machine has made Blue the hot color.

Green tried to make a stand against Blue in 2021, but so far Blue is still winning.

During the 15400’s run, I heard from SA’s in different cities that the distribution was approximately 40% white, 40% black and 20% blue. Blue is definitely rarer on the market than the other colours.

underpar31009 · 25 September 2021, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ramenlover

During the 15400’s run, I heard from SA’s in different cities that the distribution was approximately 40% white, 40% black and 20% blue. Blue is definitely rarer on the market than the other colours.

Yes you are correct.

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danicasi2002 · 26 September 2021, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fwoomp

All of the dials are gorgeous, but the blue is on another level imo. That said, $20k is a pretty huge gap. Last year I made almost this exact swap-- I traded a black dial 15500 plus $10k cash for a blue dial. I'm still very happy with that trade, but I'm not sure whether I'd still do it if the delta were $20k.

I did a similar transaction earlier this year and never regretted it. But I agree since then the delta have increased and I would not go for it. This is because the 15500 black is in itself a very beautiful piece - classic and the contrast between the steel, hour batons, and black dial is stunning.

h.to · 27 September 2021, 07:39 PM

Definitely the good old times

I was told the Blue dial 15500st was not available to me unless I bought a Code or Precious Metal RO variants (with wait time). 15202 --- out of the question partly due to discontinuation, partly to allocation. Keep in mind I already bought 2 ROO and I was picking up my grey dial 15500st at that time

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Originally Posted by cascavel

In order to sell watches at their newly opened Boutiques, watch manufacturers had to have a hook and Boutique Exclusives were it. The 15400 blue dial was only available at the AP Boutique. The catch, which seems ironic now, was that there was little or no discount offered. At first you didn't need a history, just a willingness to pay full retail. And there was a wait time, even back then, although it was only 2 months.
For those who were impatient and willing to pay an extra $5K, the boutiques almost always had a 15202st in stock, which was another Boutiques exclusive with a blue dial.
And then they expanded and made the Royal Oak chronograph with blue dial a Boutique Exclusive also, if memory serves.

EdwardC · 28 September 2021, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by h.to

Definitely the good old times

I was told the Blue dial 15500st was not available to me unless I bought a Code or Precious Metal RO variants (with wait time). 15202 --- out of the question partly due to discontinuation, partly to allocation. Keep in mind I already bought 2 ROO and I was picking up my grey dial 15500st at that time

Is this a common practice for all brands in Hong Kong?

h.to · 28 September 2021, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by EdwardC

Is this a common practice for all brands in Hong Kong?

AP is already better compared to Rolex in allocation. You'll be laughed out of the store if you ask about "waitlisting" on a Rolex.

pretty much impossible to get any Rolex for retail here.

edisonstar23 · 7 October 2021, 10:17 AM

I got to see all dials last time I went to 47th St., To be honest, it's a preference thing - I personally loved the 15500 with the silver dial over the black/blue.

I personally think that the blue dial is hype (not all since there is a lower supply) - But people used to be crazy over blue dials before and now ppl are getting crazy over green dials. BUY WHAT YOU LIKE and don't care what ppl like.

But if you like the BLUE Dial you kind of f******. They are trading over 10-15 gs over the other dials.

EdwardC · 18 October 2021, 04:08 PM

I think this is just too much now

https://chrono24.app/audemarspiguet/...US&SETCURR=USD

GreenLantern · 18 October 2021, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EdwardC

I think this is just too much now

https://chrono24.app/audemarspiguet/...US&SETCURR=USD

It's all a big joke these days. All of it.

Abre · 26 October 2021, 07:59 AM

It’s because it looks like this ap

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whiterabbit66 · 30 October 2021, 09:25 PM

I have a white model 15400 and actually prefer it. I would pay 10k more for blue maybe as an investment but no more.

Call me crazy but I also thought AP will do a dial swop for a couple of grand?

23 September 2021, 02:36 AM	#1
EdwardC 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Pacific Posts: 3,503	Difference between blue and black 15500st I thought I misread but the market price for these 2 is over $20k. Just a dial color, and it's 50% more. I haven't seen the dial in person, is it really that much more attractive?

23 September 2021, 02:44 AM	#2
AshAP "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ash Location: UK Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 4,544	Blue is rarer and more of an application piece. AP House in London only receive 6 blue dials PA Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 September 2021, 02:45 AM	#3
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,160	It's got to be internet hype. The same goes for the Overseas and other brands though not all 50% over. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

23 September 2021, 02:59 AM	#4
fwoomp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: NYC Watch: Datograph Posts: 40	All of the dials are gorgeous, but the blue is on another level imo. That said, $20k is a pretty huge gap. Last year I made almost this exact swap-- I traded a black dial 15500 plus $10k cash for a blue dial. I'm still very happy with that trade, but I'm not sure whether I'd still do it if the delta were $20k.

23 September 2021, 03:08 AM	#5
macrowatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Posts: 4,365	It's really exceptional. Not sure I'd pay the premium, but I would say it's at least 50% prettier for this eye of the beholder.

23 September 2021, 03:09 AM	#6
alexlt730512 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,245	it's all about hype, but out of those four choices that white dial that i think it's more unique, but between the two you mentioned blue is definitely better looking than black.

23 September 2021, 04:00 AM	#7
pav333hp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: USA Posts: 570	Well here are few things to consider: 1. Color itself is a big driving factor in desirability across many things, not watch dials only. Looks at cars for example, rare or more desired colors can fetch $10,000s more for the same exact car. 2. Blue dial is genuinely more beautiful on the 15500 compared to black dial. There is more color, more gradience and just more fun! 3. Some people look at the 15500 in blue as a replacement, upgrade, or consolation piece to the 15202.

23 September 2021, 06:35 AM	#8
macrowatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Posts: 4,365	Forgot to add, if you look at the blue dial when the sunlight hits it…wow, beautiful. One of the best.

23 September 2021, 07:58 AM	#9
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,357	It’s more simply because it’s a boutique piece (blue dial). Is it really worth 50% over black, silver, grey? HELL NO. If tomorrow AP changes their strategy and make the black dial limited, the black will probably be worth more than the blue. Rarity determines the price.

23 September 2021, 10:19 AM	#10
VogelPhoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Taiwan Posts: 3,599	I can't decide what to think about the blue dial. Yes, it is very attractive, but relative to e.g. the grey (which I have) how much of that is real, and how much a subconscious reaction to the hype? I probably would trade grey vs blue straight up, but $20k extra is insane (e.g., if both were readily available from AP, but with a $20k premium for blue, I doubt very much many would go for it).

23 September 2021, 10:40 AM	#11
underpar31009 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Ryan Location: USA Watch: AP and JLC Posts: 346	The blue dials on the 15400, 15500, and 15202 are simply stunning. Sure it is some hype and definitely exclusivity, but the way the blue changes in different lighting is something else. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 September 2021, 05:37 PM	#12
Neming "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Switzerland Posts: 48	Pictures of the 15500 blue dial and next to the 'wet' black dial of the 15703 Envoyé de mon SM-G998B en utilisant Tapatalk

24 September 2021, 07:43 AM	#14
GreenLantern "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Montana Posts: 3,223	Pretty sure they make the same amount of Blue dials as Black dials. It's just that the internet hype machine has made Blue the hot color. Green tried to make a stand against Blue in 2021, but so far Blue is still winning.

24 September 2021, 08:13 PM	#15
cascavel 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Santa Fe Posts: 1,857	In order to sell watches at their newly opened Boutiques, watch manufacturers had to have a hook and Boutique Exclusives were it. The 15400 blue dial was only available at the AP Boutique. The catch, which seems ironic now, was that there was little or no discount offered. At first you didn't need a history, just a willingness to pay full retail. And there was a wait time, even back then, although it was only 2 months. For those who were impatient and willing to pay an extra $5K, the boutiques almost always had a 15202st in stock, which was another Boutiques exclusive with a blue dial. And then they expanded and made the Royal Oak chronograph with blue dial a Boutique Exclusive also, if memory serves.

7 October 2021, 10:17 AM	#22
edisonstar23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 488	I got to see all dials last time I went to 47th St., To be honest, it's a preference thing - I personally loved the 15500 with the silver dial over the black/blue. I personally think that the blue dial is hype (not all since there is a lower supply) - But people used to be crazy over blue dials before and now ppl are getting crazy over green dials. BUY WHAT YOU LIKE and don't care what ppl like. But if you like the BLUE Dial you kind of f******. They are trading over 10-15 gs over the other dials.

18 October 2021, 04:08 PM	#23
EdwardC 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Pacific Posts: 3,503	I think this is just too much now https://chrono24.app/audemarspiguet/...US&SETCURR=USD

26 October 2021, 07:59 AM	#25
Abre "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: USA Posts: 441	It’s because it looks like this ap Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 October 2021, 09:25 PM	#26
whiterabbit66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Spain, US Watch: AP ROO, Posts: 144	I have a white model 15400 and actually prefer it. I would pay 10k more for blue maybe as an investment but no more. Call me crazy but I also thought AP will do a dial swop for a couple of grand?

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