Anti reflective coating datejust 41

[Jordan1415]

So as some of you will know I just bought a datejust 41 which I love and it’s my first Rolex.
I’m noticing the dial gets a lot of glare so its not always that clear to read.
I did some research and from what I can see the reason for this is Rolex don’t use any anti reflective coatings?
Can anyone who actually knows shed some light on this ?
Cheers


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[fskywalker]

Rolex avoided AR coatings for a long time, only recently add it to a few sport models like the new 41mm subs.


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[Jordan1415]

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Rolex avoided AR coatings for a long time, only recently add it to a few sport models like the new 41mm subs.


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So the glare is normal then ?


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[noshame]

Originally Posted by Jordan1415

So the glare is normal then ?


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Yes, the glare is normal on your DJ. I experience the same on my Rolex watches. My understanding is that up until this year, Rolex did not use AR coating on their watches. Some members have noted that AR was used on the backside of the cyclops lens only, but I can't confirm that. As mentioned by a fellow member earlier, Rolex does state on their website that the newly released Submariner and Oyster Perpetual family now uses AR coating on the backside of the crystal. My guess is moving forward, Rolex will use AR on new releases.

[D.P.G.]

Other then the new 41 mm Sub does any other model have it ?

I don't mind if it's only inside the crystal but if they start putting on the outside it will likely be the same problem as Omega and the reason I changed to a Rolex.

[mmmmp]

Originally Posted by noshame

Yes, the glare is normal on your DJ. I experience the same on my Rolex watches. My understanding is that up until this year, Rolex did not use AR coating on their watches. Some members have noted that AR was used on the backside of the cyclops lens only, but I can't confirm that. As mentioned by a fellow member earlier, Rolex does state on their website that the newly released Submariner and Oyster Perpetual family now uses AR coating on the backside of the crystal. My guess is moving forward, Rolex will use AR on new releases.

I'll confirm that that yes, AR is on the cyclops of both of my DJ41's. There's a slight blue 'reflection' when the watch is under certain types of lighting.

The reason Rolex has never used AR on the crystal is: a high ranking Rolex executive stated "the dial doesn't sparkle when AR is used". (I don't recall his EXACT words.)

Yes, I thought this was nonsense until I searched TRF archives - apparently it's true. And it makes sense to those who own watches with AR coated glass. I think Breitling has it on both sides which means a scratch would look nasty indeed. AR underneath seems okay to me, but I sure as hell wouldn't want it on the outside. My watches bang into door frames, my piano, etc all the time which would be harsh on an AR coated crystal..

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[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by mmmmp

I'll confirm that that yes, AR is on the cyclops of both of my DJ41's. There's a slight blue 'reflection' when the watch is under certain types of lighting.

The reason Rolex has never used AR on the crystal is: a high ranking Rolex executive stated "the dial doesn't sparkle when AR is used". (I don't recall his EXACT words.)

Yes, I thought this was nonsense until I searched TRF archives - apparently it's true. And it makes sense to those who own watches with AR coated glass. I think Breitling has it on both sides which means a scratch would look nasty indeed. AR underneath seems okay to me, but I sure as hell wouldn't want it on the outside. My watches bang into door frames, my piano, etc all the time which would be harsh on an AR coated crystal..

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Just on the inner side of the sapphire is the way to go IMHO; here my Pelagos which has AR on the inner side and sometimes looks like it does not have a glass:




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[noshame]

Originally Posted by D.P.G.

Other then the new 41 mm Sub does any other model have it ?

I don't mind if it's only inside the crystal but if they start putting on the outside it will likely be the same problem as Omega and the reason I changed to a Rolex.

New Subs and Oyster Perpetuals (as stated by Rolex on their website)

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Just on the inner side of the sapphire is the way to go IMHO; here my Pelagos which has AR on the inner side and sometimes looks like it does not have a glass:




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Stellar shot

[mmmmp]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Stellar shot

Yeah, that AR is great. (As is the photo)

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[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Stellar shot

Originally Posted by mmmmp

Yeah, that AR is great. (As is the photo)

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Thanks!



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[Jordan1415]

Originally Posted by mmmmp

I'll confirm that that yes, AR is on the cyclops of both of my DJ41's. There's a slight blue 'reflection' when the watch is under certain types of lighting.

The reason Rolex has never used AR on the crystal is: a high ranking Rolex executive stated "the dial doesn't sparkle when AR is used". (I don't recall his EXACT words.)

Yes, I thought this was nonsense until I searched TRF archives - apparently it's true. And it makes sense to those who own watches with AR coated glass. I think Breitling has it on both sides which means a scratch would look nasty indeed. AR underneath seems okay to me, but I sure as hell wouldn't want it on the outside. My watches bang into door frames, my piano, etc all the time which would be harsh on an AR coated crystal..

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I have a Breitling super avenger with a blue dial and it honestly looks like you’re looking directly at the dial.
If this is just the way Rolex do it then that’s fair enough, I’m surprised they wouldn’t at least use it on the inside though


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[AD337]

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Just on the inner side of the sapphire is the way to go IMHO; here my Pelagos which has AR on the inner side and sometimes looks like it does not have a glass:




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Wow ! Cool pic - post a few more ! Or PM them to me, it literally looks like the crystal is absent at this lighting and angle

[Oxfordian]

Originally Posted by Jordan1415

So as some of you will know I just bought a datejust 41 which I love and it’s my first Rolex.
I’m noticing the dial gets a lot of glare so its not always that clear to read.
I did some research and from what I can see the reason for this is Rolex don’t use any anti reflective coatings?
Can anyone who actually knows shed some light on this ?
Cheers


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How strange, my DJ41 is one of the easiest dials to read IMHO, I have no trouble checking the time in any light, even the lume is pretty good for those occasions when I need it, which is very rare.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by AD337

Wow ! Cool pic - post a few more ! Or PM them to me, it literally looks like the crystal is absent at this lighting and angle

Here you go!












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[mmmmp]

Originally Posted by Jordan1415

I have a Breitling super avenger with a blue dial and it honestly looks like you’re looking directly at the dial.
If this is just the way Rolex do it then that’s fair enough, I’m surprised they wouldn’t at least use it on the inside though


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Love the SA! I agree when done right, it works really well. My Rhodium Wimbledon dial can be tricky to read under certain lighting which would be a perfect reference to employ AR.

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