Heading to Portugal...which Rolex to bring?

[crazymcmichael]

Originally Posted by Redadmiral2

I’ve been to Lisbon 3 times in the last 18 months and every time I get asked do I want any drugs.
I wouldn’t wear a Rolex there as it’s well dodgy.
Leave the watches at home and use a sun dial.

Lol yep

[MercLBDM]

I'm in Porto from 5th June to 9th June and not taking either of mine.

Only because I'm there on a stag weekend and for the England vs Netherlands Nation's League semi-finals in Guimaraes

The potential for me to misplace one more than anything else, especially in what will be a very busy accommodation for 16 of us. Guaranteed luggage everywhere and don't know if the property has a safe.

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[MercLBDM]

Originally Posted by jpeezy14@hotmail.com

Because I like to wear my watches when on vacation! Isn't this a site for WIS'? I'd expect most people around here like to bring more than one watch on a trip.



Also, I like to change things up depending on the outfit I'm wearing.

Agreed. Didn't have any reservations taking both on my first vacation to New York a couple of weeks ago.

My upcoming trip to Porto is on a stag weekend and England vs Netherlands football match in Guimaraes, so I'll leave them at home for that.

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[HogwldFLTR]

GMT for international travel!!!!

[JParm]

Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

We are investors only

haha one would think that around here, these days.

[Soultime]

Bizarre..... Saw my first crime in Cascais today after coming here for over 20 years.

Some guy got his rucksack nicked on the main shopping street in the middle of the day.
The thief ran straight past me with a couple of people chasing. Police joined in.
No idea if they caught him. Hope so.

Made me decide to be a bit more cautious over here.

Having said that, the crime here is much lower than where we live....
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings.jsp

[PatekSF]

I would strongly recommend that one reads this before traveling with multiple timepieces:

https://www.fratellowatches.com/bewa...019-attendees/

Granted, this may be extreme but who is to say this can’t happen anywhere ...

[jb335]

Originally Posted by emt1581

Might want to hop over to a youtube channel called "Active Self Protection" and watch some vids of what happens when bad guys notice something you have that they want.

If I were going there, unarmed, I'd wear my kid's Garfield watch he got at Burger King in a kids meal a few years ago.

That said I'm typing this from the safety of a free state/country where, if you play adult games you're going to win adult prizes.

Good luck either way you choose and safe travels!

Wow. I am so glad I am not controlled by fear like you. Lol at being scared to wear anything but a toy watch in Lisbon.

[emt1581]

Originally Posted by jb335

Wow. I am so glad I am not controlled by fear like you. Lol at being scared to wear anything but a toy watch in Lisbon.

You call it controlled by fear I call it common sense and playing it safe.

[One Ping Only]

We just got back from a week in Portugal. Lisbon seems to have some sketchy areas but no where did I feel “unsafe”. Visited Sintra, Douro Valley and Porto as well.

I wore a Grand Seiko GMT

[JParm]

Originally Posted by One Ping Only

We just got back from a week in Portugal. Lisbon seems to have some sketchy areas but no where did I feel “unsafe”. Visited Sintra, Douro Valley and Porto as well.

I wore a Grand Seiko GMT

Favorite spots on the trip? We're doing Lisbon, Sintra, Porto and the Algarve (Albufeira and Lagos).

[garbanzo]

Originally Posted by jpeezy14@hotmail.com

Favorite spots on the trip? We're doing Lisbon, Sintra, Porto and the Algarve (Albufeira and Lagos).

In Sintra, we took a hike to the Moor's Castle, a steep hike but the views are amazing.
In Porto, the Vila Nova area on the south bank of the river is nice, all the port wine houses are there and their products can be sampled at reasonable prices.
Algarve area is generally quite touristy. My favourite place there is Sagres, the most southwestern point of Europe. Windy but beautiful.

[Jaff03]

Originally Posted by jpeezy14@hotmail.com

Wife and I are headed to Lisbon, Porto and the Algarve this weekend for a couple weeks. 100% bringing the Seiko Save the Ocean for some water activities, but what else? Do I bring the 16710 for GMT purposes? Or pack the DD40 ("is it safe??" j/k)? I think the Hulk stays behind because I just don't have it insured for it's current value

Anway, looking forward to your thoughts, and of course the vacation!

You have a very beautiful Rolex, i don't think you should risk it for the vacation hence you can't tell of the security situation of the place.

[onthedial]

@jpeezy14@hotmail.com
I traveled all around Portugal within the last year (Porto, Lisbon, the Alentejo region) and never felt an ounce of fear regardless of where I was or at what time of day or night. I don't call attention to myself as a tourist--I think that's how you get marked as a target. Anyway, I often travel with an Explorer 214270 which was true of this trip. Of your choices I'd go with your GMT.
Rent a car, get off the beaten track as much as possible and be sure to hear some live local/traditional music (Fado) in Lisbon.
Cheers!
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[JParm]

Originally Posted by onthedial

@jpeezy14@hotmail.com
I traveled all around Portugal within the last year (Porto, Lisbon, the Alentejo region) and never felt an ounce of fear regardless of where I was or at what time of day or night. I don't call attention to myself as a tourist--I think that's how you get marked as a target. Anyway, I often travel with an Explorer 214270 which was true of this trip. Of your choices I'd go with your GMT.
Rent a car, get off the beaten track as much as possible and be sure to hear some live local/traditional music (Fado) in Lisbon.
Cheers!
__________
Instagram: @onthedial

Thank you for the insight! As someone that lived in SoCal for the last 10 years (I see you're in LA), I feel pretty aware of my surroundings and know what NOT to do around the sketchier parts of the country.

Went to grad school at USC, so I'm sure you know what I mean when I say anything compared to the surroundings of that campus at night is a cake walk!

[Alex6340]

Originally Posted by jpeezy14@hotmail.com

The minute I insure it for current market value, current market value goes up...1st world problems!

I bought the Hulk pre-owned with B&P in early 2017 for $7600 pre-owned. As everyone on this forum (and elsewhere) has noted, things have gotten a bit out of hand...

That’s true. I’m also thinking about to insure my Hulk for market value.


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[crazymcmichael]

Originally Posted by jb335

Wow. I am so glad I am not controlled by fear like you. Lol at being scared to wear anything but a toy watch in Lisbon.

The nephew of my girlfriend is a police officer in Lisboa and told me it is extremely common to be nicked in the Streets, as i tell it now i seen many many tourists lost their passports and wallets there. I do not want to scare anyone off, but it is just the reality of how things are..
You have to understand the minimum wage in Portugal is extremely low and most people are just poor there.. In city like Lisbon you will find a lot of garbage, as others have mentioned a lot of people try to scam you selling drugs.. But at the same time, a lot of people there watching you as a tourist. In smaller places i saw even an elderly native lady being nearly attacked at the cash machine by a woman that wanted money, my girlfriend took her away she is a fighter lol..

[liverpool23]

GMT as its a holiday, day-date is to business

[brandrea]

If it’s safe to bring my kids, it’s safe enough to bring my watch.

[JParm]

Originally Posted by brandrea

If it’s safe to bring my kids, it’s safe enough to bring my watch.

Haha, I like it! Fortunately for the wife and me, our two kids (2 and 4) will be safe at home with the grandparents. A true vacation!!

[azs.77]

The GMT looks gorgeous, and would be great for travel.


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[One Ping Only]

Originally Posted by jpeezy14@hotmail.com

Favorite spots on the trip? We're doing Lisbon, Sintra, Porto and the Algarve (Albufeira and Lagos).

River cruise along the Douro was great, amazing scenery.

Sintra parks and the Moorish castle was fun, tourists galore.

Lunch at DOP in Porto

[Rosex]

For what it's worth I just found a Explorer at the Cascais Rolex dealer. Have been looking for one for some time. Was on the metro yesterday and saw 2 people wearing Rolex on the train, clearly local and one was a woman. Seems to be very safe.

[CharlesN]

I travel to Madeira for a month every year for the past 27 years.
I have never had a problem. In fact I have bought PM models there whilst on holiday and never feared at all for either my or my watch safety.

[Soultime]

Originally Posted by Rosex

For what it's worth I just found a Explorer at the Cascais Rolex dealer. Have been looking for one for some time. Was on the metro yesterday and saw 2 people wearing Rolex on the train, clearly local and one was a woman. Seems to be very safe.

Well done.
We are back there again in Sept.

[RolexFan007]

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[Mr.Rolex1]

Nice pics and great watch!

[emtee]

Originally Posted by Redadmiral2

I’ve been to Lisbon 3 times in the last 18 months and every time I get asked do I want any drugs.
I wouldn’t wear a Rolex there as it’s well dodgy.
Leave the watches at home and use a sun dial.

Lol. They’re just trying to sell their product not steal you’re watch. If you don’t want it just say “no thanks”.

[Duende01]

This is one of those difficult decisons only you can make. If you leave it at home, you will wish you had it. If you take it on your trip, you might not feel entirely comfortable wearing it and will probably not enjoy parts of your trip or your expiriences as a tourist.

For those that say that watches are not normally noticed, the average individual might not notice but thieves are well verse in spotting valuable items, especially jewlery.

Enjoy your trip and hope your decision gets easier to make.

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[pessoa00]

What a crazy thread!
According to this index http://worldpopulationreview.com/cou...-in-the-world/ Portugal is “just” the 4th safest country in the world! So, yeah, unless you are coming from Iceland, New Zealand or Austria you’ll be safer here than in your home Country.