5196r- do I want one? Hmmm

[BT1985]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Good thing there was no date

Very true. Addition by subtraction for you my friend.


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[GB-man]

Congrats I really like the 5196 lately. Thought about one myself a few times. Enjoy it

[Fat_ninja]

Not sure if most people know the heritage of the 5196... and the importance of this reference to Patek. The 96 was monumental to Patek in my mind... we’ve all been to that point in our lives where there is that one thing that reshapes the rest of our lives...i kind of feel like the 96 was that moment.


Eminem-“if you had, one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted, in one moment, would you capture it”


https://monochrome-watches.com/histo...-reference-96/

[Blah114aa]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

So weirdest thing... i woke up and started thinking i wanted a dress watch. And had a craving for a 5196r. Probably could get one around $18k +/- i assume.

Weird... considering the new job is jeans and sneakers (no sandals).

Woken up in the twilight zone


If i was not expecting other watches coming. Id probably act on the impulse.

I have one and wear it often.. I notice new things about it with nearly each wear. It’s a deceptively large dress watch. It is a masterpiece.

[torrente]

I feel 5196 as the quintessential of a traditional watch, in my case I love all the metals but I tend to prefer the dial on the YG and in this case YG as the most traditional.
While I receive the confirmation that AD is able to source one by July and before starting to check other ADs in the area for stock, I can not stop watching this video:

https://youtu.be/I1tIorwSzjQ

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by torrente

I feel 5196 as the quintessential of a traditional watch, in my case I love all the metals but I tend to prefer the dial on the YG and in this case YG as the most traditional.
While I receive the confirmation that AD is able to source one by July and before starting to check other ADs in the area for stock, I can not stop watching this video:

https://youtu.be/I1tIorwSzjQ

Yeah i originally wanted the YG but they didnt have it so i went with the RG

I am surprised that the 5196 wasnt stocked up as much at a few AD’s

Someone is obsessed lol

[torrente]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Yeah i originally wanted the YG but they didnt have it so i went with the RG
I am surprised that the 5196 wasnt stocked up as much at a few AD’s
Someone is obsessed lol

RG is super-nice I really like the vintage touch of the grey dial, I understand that RG is the most sold and for sure is for a good reason.
Last week I visited or called all ADs in South California to purchase it, very little 5196 stock, 2ADs with RG and one with PT and RG, one of the ADs had a YG in another state but we did not reached an agreement in price.
Where I live there is not Patek AD, my next opportunity window is a trip to Spain in July, by the way prices there are good if you are non resident and able to do a tax refund.

[pam66]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Very nice someone at work has one but not yellow gold

thanks for reminding us that other watchmakers have great watches as well:::)))

[jag32]

I had the same dillema and bought a 5296 over a 5196. This is a Patek Phillipe, I want to see the movement.

Only reason to get the 5196 is the better pricepoint, IMO.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by jag32

I had the same dillema and bought a 5296 over a 5196. This is a Patek Phillipe, I want to see the movement.

Only reason to get the 5196 is the better pricepoint, IMO.

Lol, i guess. I can see the movement in my other watches


Or you really enjoy the fact that this is a larger version of the original 96... you know,...the watch that effectively saves the company

[liljctl]

Tempted to dive right in and get one.

Should I got down the AD route or get a better price at a trusted dealer?

@fatninja, what did you mean by this watch saving the company?

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[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by liljctl

Tempted to dive right in and get one.

Should I got down the AD route or get a better price at a trusted dealer?

@fatninja, what did you mean by this watch saving the company?

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https://monochrome-watches.com/histo...-reference-96/

This is when the brothers bought out patek because it ran into financial difficulties. The sterns was actually the dial makers. They needed to produce a hot selling watch that appealed to collectors and normal people... so the 96 was born.

[liljctl]

Wow, thanks!

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[sensui]

Fat_Ninja had conjured my hidden feelings for the past year..... Dangerous forum indeed.

[Dlindsay]

Congrats FN

[kitsgq]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

https://monochrome-watches.com/histo...-reference-96/



This is when the brothers bought out patek because it ran into financial difficulties. The sterns was actually the dial makers. They needed to produce a hot selling watch that appealed to collectors and normal people... so the 96 was born.

That article right there will be the reason I buy the 5196. If I had any hesitation before, I'm sold!

But I'm still torn on metal. Most likely WG but RG is also compelling.

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[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by sensui

Fat_Ninja had conjured my hidden feelings for the past year..... Dangerous forum indeed.

His handle says it all.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

His handle says it all.

I ended up getting a J too just to see which Id like more lol

[torrente]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

I ended up getting a J too just to see which Id like more lol

2 better than one :-) , what are your feelings of both?

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by torrente

2 better than one :-) , what are your feelings of both?

Similar but different. In bright light they both look similar.

The J looks lighter because of the dial vs the R with the grey dial. I go back and forth between which i like more lol.


Cant go wrong tho. Timeless.

[torrente]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Similar but different. In bright light they both look similar.
The J looks lighter because of the dial vs the R with the grey dial. I go back and forth between which i like more lol.
Cant go wrong tho. Timeless.

Yes, all metals are great, each one with its own personality.

Have you purchased additional straps?

[gsg]

Originally Posted by jag32

I had the same dillema and bought a 5296 over a 5196. This is a Patek Phillipe, I want to see the movement.

Only reason to get the 5196 is the better pricepoint, IMO.

And this is why Patek does not want you to see the movement of their 5196... They can't be bothered updating the movement to fit the case. At least they did not use a plastic spacer...

[torrente]

Originally Posted by gsg

And this is why Patek does not want you to see the movement of their 5196... They can't be bothered updating the movement to fit the case. At least they did not use a plastic spacer...

Why change something that works?

[gsg]

Because they are Patek and should strive for excellence?
On that same note, why then bother with any type of hand finishing or movement decorations, should the movement just not work the same without them?

[torrente]

Originally Posted by gsg

Because they are Patek and should strive for excellence?
On that same note, why then bother with any type of hand finishing or movement decorations, should the movement just not work the same without them?

I understand your point of view, but at first I do not see any improvement doing it.
What they could do use the additional space for? More power reserve? Not sure if for the common use case of this case makes sense.
Regarding having a back show case, it might sense to have a bigger movement, but not sure if I prefer it if as I understand would make the watch thicker.
If they would be able to use that space to have a thinner movement that would make sense.

[sensui]

Originally Posted by gsg

And this is why Patek does not want you to see the movement of their 5196... They can't be bothered updating the movement to fit the case. At least they did not use a plastic spacer...

Suddenly the Lange side is calling harder after this pic considering the 5196r lol.

[torrente]

Originally Posted by sensui

Suddenly the Lange side is calling harder after this pic considering the 5196r lol.

In my opinion Lange is very nice but quite different watch, in that line I would open Breguet Classique too.
I can see that you are in San Diego in CJ Charles La Jolla you can see all together (PP, Lange, JLC) , JLC Master ultrathin is a good alternative too if you look for RG or SS (SS is very very nice and of course much lower price)

Photos of my last visit to CJ Charles one month ago:

[gsg]

Originally Posted by sensui

Suddenly the Lange side is calling harder after this pic considering the 5196r lol.

No wonder... ;)

Patek is being very complacent and shouldn't be taking these kind of shortcuts. Vacheron, Lange, FPJ, etc., they all have properly fitting movements.

[sensui]

Originally Posted by torrente

In my opinion Lange is very nice but quite different watch, in that line I would open Breguet Classique too.
I can see that you are in San Diego in CJ Charles La Jolla you can see all together (PP, Lange, JLC) , JLC Master ultrathin is a good alternative too if you look for RG or SS (SS is very very nice and of course much lower price)

Photos of my last visit to CJ Charles one month ago:

Very nice. In terms of CJ Charles, it's a personal thing and I have many friends who are VIPs/good customers of theirs....but I personally do not shop through them with my experience in the past. Certain things didn't sit right with me. Say hi to Brandon for me next time you're in the store.

[torrente]

Originally Posted by sensui

Very nice. In terms of CJ Charles, it's a personal thing and I have many friends who are VIPs/good customers of theirs....but I personally do not shop through them with my experience in the past. Certain things didn't sit right with me. Say hi to Brandon for me next time you're in the store.

My experience was really excellent, that was the first time that I went there but I had a personal reference with Brandon and we talked before as I am from out of US.
I went with a clear idea to purchase a 5196 but I was more towards YG and trying the RG did not changed my mind. Unfortunately my time window on that trip was very limited and he was not able to source the watch.
I visited almost all Patek dealers in South California and CJCharles stock I would say that it was the best, I would say that comparable or better to the Rodeo Drive boutique.