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Old 24 May 2019, 01:48 AM   #1
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Best Black Sub to add to my collection?

Currently I have the blue Yacht and polar explorer II pictured below and looking at a none ceramic black sub. Pretty sure I like the no date for its cleaner appearance, I liked the engraving below the bezel in the new 07 08 model but the 4 line sure looks like a cluster or is it just me?


Look forward to hearing input from you guys.

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Old 24 May 2019, 02:07 AM   #2
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Check out the Z serial with engraved rehaut. IMO one of the best they have made and I have collected subs for 20 years. Gold version on my wrist in profile photo but it does have date.
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Old 24 May 2019, 02:16 AM   #3
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I see you have posted a mix of dates vs no-dates; Traditionally if money is at all involved with your purchase in mind a no-date is usually the best bet/overall classic sub.

Imo, if you are going for an engraved rehault I would go for a modern ceramic for the better bracelet. Z & M serials are a good range if you must have those options listed for a 5 digit.
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Old 24 May 2019, 02:21 AM   #4
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I see you have posted a mix of dates vs no-dates; Traditionally if money is at all involved with your purchase in mind a no-date is usually the best bet/overall classic sub.

Imo, if you are going for an engraved rehault I would go for a modern ceramic for the better bracelet. Z & M serials are a good range if you must have those options listed for a 5 digit.


I had the SubC and got rid of it, didn’t fit my wrist properly and prefer the fit and classic look of the pre ceramic.


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Old 24 May 2019, 03:57 AM   #5
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You might also want to try on/check out the 16600 Sea-Dweller. Classic lines with a bit of extra heft, and a date window but not intrusive due no cyclops. I was looking at 5-digit Subs and the fit/look/history of the 16600 really grabbed me.
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Old 24 May 2019, 04:06 AM   #6
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Old 24 May 2019, 04:07 AM   #7
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Best 5 digit black sub , don't forget to add the 16800 matte dial to the mix . Last of the matte dial subs, but still a serious daily wearer contender even today
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Old 24 May 2019, 04:08 AM   #8
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For me a date is key, so the choice is clear. If you don’t need one, get the nodate. I am not if the thinking that the addition of the date changes the appearance of the watch appreciably so even if you would use the date sometimes, get the 16610.
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Old 24 May 2019, 04:15 AM   #9
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Best 5 digit black sub , don't forget to add the 16800 matte dial to the mix . Last of the matte dial subs, but still a serious daily wearer contender even today

She's a beauty!
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Old 24 May 2019, 04:25 AM   #10
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Yep.

Two lines good. Four lines bad.

Go for the 14060M (two Line).
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Old 24 May 2019, 04:27 AM   #11
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Best Black Sub to add to my collection?

There’s a big divide on 2 line and 4 line, there’s as many on here that prefer one to the other....totally a personal taste, both look good to me....the 2 line just shades it for me, simple clean....just set the time and go, no need to set the date if it’s stopped...just my view on it. I have the 14060M 2 line....although it has the 2 line dial, it has the certified movement of the 4 line certified dial.....best of both worlds!


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Old 24 May 2019, 04:33 AM   #12
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I like the 14060 with tritium to give you the patina. If you need/want a date, I would look for a 16800 like the one above. Love that patina!
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Old 24 May 2019, 10:10 PM   #13
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Is it the photo or is the crown guard bigger on one side vs the other?

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I like the 14060 with tritium to give you the patina. If you need/want a date, I would look for a 16800 like the one above. Love that patina!
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Old 24 May 2019, 10:40 PM   #14
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For me the sub needs the cyclops as it gives it that distinctive look.
But each to there own.
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Old 24 May 2019, 11:26 PM   #15
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Is it the photo or is the crown guard bigger on one side vs the other?
Interesting. I have never noticed that, so I assume it's just the angle of the photo. Let me look later and get back to you.
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Old 24 May 2019, 11:52 PM   #16
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Is it the photo or is the crown guard bigger on one side vs the other?
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Old 25 May 2019, 10:05 AM   #17
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Check out the Z serial with engraved rehaut. IMO one of the best they have made and I have collected subs for 20 years. Gold version on my wrist in profile photo but it does have date.
I am currently looking at a Z Serial with engraved rehaut.
Very interested in your comment that this reference is one of
the best they have made.
I would be grateful if you could provide a little more information to help with my considerations.
Also have seen a Z series 2 liner, and wonder if you can help with an opinion on this version too.
Many thanks.
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Old 1 June 2019, 06:37 AM   #18
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Best Black Sub to add to my collection?

Just arrived V series I am very pleased




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Old 1 June 2019, 07:25 AM   #19
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Congrats look great
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Old 1 June 2019, 07:26 AM   #20
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Get newest best condition 14060m you can get and enjoy.
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Old 1 June 2019, 08:58 AM   #21
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Congrats! Looks great.
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Old 1 June 2019, 09:13 AM   #22
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2 liner is the best IMO. So clean. But any 5 digit no date sub in great shape is a worthy adversary.
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Old 1 June 2019, 09:52 AM   #23
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The 16610 and the 16710 are still “the” Rolex watches to own in my book.
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Old 1 June 2019, 10:06 AM   #24
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This is an excellent choice!
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Old 1 June 2019, 10:18 AM   #25
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I personally like the two liner. I picked this 2007 Z serial a few months ago and love the clean look.
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Your other watches have date windows on them. I would miss the date window on any new watch. Just my two pennies.
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Old 1 June 2019, 01:01 PM   #27
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Side by side I prefer the date


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