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Old 4 April 2020, 02:53 PM   #31
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I've sold two very nice sets the past year. Expect to pay around $13,500 - maybe a little more or less - for a nice set with the pointed "4" bezel insert. The flat "4" sets which are the Y9 through around Y5 serial numbers sell for around $10,000 more than the later pointed "4" models.
Do you mean F5?
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Old 4 April 2020, 05:06 PM   #32
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Has to be F.
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Old 4 April 2020, 05:06 PM   #33
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I got a very nice pointed 4 from 2010, was one of the last made and I like the fact that is in mint condition (not polished, not stress on the bracelet), I got it for $13000. I have been all over the Sub and SD line, I love the 5digit case with the maxi dial and the uniqueness of the 16610LV as a model. I have a Daytona ceramic black dial and a Bluesy ceramic that are and look brand new, I mostly wear the Kermit, it is a used watch that I enjoy more without worrying too much
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Old 5 April 2020, 06:54 AM   #34
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I have a feeling it’ll go down more in a few months.


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Old 5 April 2020, 08:29 AM   #35
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Agreed this is the best time to buy now.


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Old 20 July 2020, 06:03 AM   #36
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Silly question...... how much of hype vs true collectibility is the flat 4 vs pointed 4 discussion?

I’m looking to get a kermit, should I splurge for the extra $10k for a y/early f serial or go with the best condition pointed 4?
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Old 20 July 2020, 06:35 AM   #37
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Check out results of auction in Geneva a few weeks ago...

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Old 20 July 2020, 06:57 AM   #38
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Silly question...... how much of hype vs true collectibility is the flat 4 vs pointed 4 discussion?

I’m looking to get a kermit, should I splurge for the extra $10k for a y/early f serial or go with the best condition pointed 4?
I would go with any NOS or near NOS piece you can find full set first, then flat 4 or minty pointed 4
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Old 20 July 2020, 08:26 AM   #39
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I have purchased 2 Z serial with box and papers in the last 2 months (hang tags and all). One for $13,900 the other for $13,250. People have been calling the top on Kermits for years yet they just keep going.
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Old 20 July 2020, 08:45 AM   #40
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Kermits and hulks will continue to rise....
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Old 20 July 2020, 08:47 AM   #41
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Old 20 July 2020, 09:07 AM   #42
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The "Flat 4" is, IIRC, the "Mk. I" edition of the Hulk, and the "4" on the bezel has a flat top. See post #14 on this thread.

It is collectible and notably pricier.
Flat part is uppermost point inside the 4, all of them have a flat top
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Old 20 July 2020, 09:11 AM   #43
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If you want one and have the funds, buy it now.

As you can see from recent auctions, even the worst economic situation since the great depression is a Non Factor in trends
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Old 20 July 2020, 10:19 AM   #44
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Do you mean F5?
Yes, you are correct and that was a typo I made. It should have read F5 not Y5.
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Old 20 July 2020, 10:30 AM   #45
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Kermits and hulks will continue to rise....
I would agree - and I haven't seen any evidence at all that nice, clean 16610LVs are getting soft in price.

In case you missed it, here is a complete F0xxxxx serial number 'flat 4" anniversary 16610LV set, unpolished and in top condition that just sold with the 50th Anniversary Press Kit for $25,000.

https://www.gmtforum.com/viewtopic.p...7a1a82edc74341
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Old 20 July 2020, 09:35 PM   #46
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I just pulled the trigger on an almost full set, only missing the booklets, Z serial one just this past weekend. It cost me my full set K serial ref 14060m plus £6k. Now I'll have to endure burgers instead of steaks for a couple of years.

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