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16 January 2021, 09:11 PM | #1 |
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Franck muller
On holiday the now and on the motorway I noticed this huge big billboard with a Franck muller crazy hours on it and thought that’s really quite nice.
What happened to Franck muller ? When I first got into watches around 15 years ago I remember them being a good brand but have heard or seen anything about them in years. Is the brand dead ? If buying one could you push for a discount? Are they lost money, meaning you take a massive hit if you decide to flip ?Kind of like the thought of having a fun watch like the crazy hours. |
16 January 2021, 11:28 PM | #2 |
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Muller was caught putting cheap Russian Poljot movements in his watches, and marking them Swiss Made.
It was a big scandal at the time and its pretty hard to recover from that level of dishonesty. |
17 January 2021, 01:11 AM | #3 |
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What about now what movements are in the new vanguard crazy hours ?
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Above said, I agree with you MrEleven in that I can recall them being a big thing when I first started noticing watches. I have always LOVED LOVED LOVED the Crazy Hours. The folks who essentially ‘invented and made’ the original ones no longer do so and from what I have heard (which may be biased hearsay but straight from the horses mouth) is the newer generation who assembles the Crazy Hours line is not cut from the same cloth. I have my sight peripherally on a Crazy Hours made from the era when the big guns were in charge (circa 2003-2007/8). This of course also helps with the infamous “value” question buying pre-owned as well. In particular I am looking for a Crazy Color Dreams in YG or a Totally Crazy. As far as resale, I think they would be challenging to unload. As far as brand identity, see above. It’s just a matter of if that is important to you. I could care less that if folks “look down” on my any of my watches. The vast majority of folks think FM only makes the Vanguard line as a Richard Mille homage watch anyways lol. |
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Nice. Enjoy your trip and please share an update upon return:)
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You should be sure to get a discount. They are probably not so easy to unload if you just want to take it for a spin a year or so.
I recently bought this at an auction. It is probably a womans watch, but I really like the look of the red gold case and the guilloched and blue enameled dial. Only bidder, so got it cheap. It's from 1995 so actually a very early example and from a time before the cocaine, money laundering and russian movements. Inside is the FM 7500 which is basicly a manual Peseux ebauche. A little tractor that keeps on ticking forever. Check out some of the early stuff. There are some really nice ones amongst those. Sendt fra min VOG-L29 med Tapatalk |
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I loved the watches. I had 2 Casablanca anniversary models years ago. They were huge but so comfortable. Just found a smaller triple calendar model which is just incredible value nowadays. The movement and other issues, now buried online devastated the brand. I see a slow resurgence now.
Sadly mine arrived with a chrono problem and is being returned for repair.
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Tried on the yellow vanguard crazy hours, I did like it but the black vanguard skeleton that was nicer. Woman said the conversion rate it would be around £40,000 I will need to look again but I’m sure I seen a good few new ones for sale at £16/£18k
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Another idea for no other reason than to muddy the consideration process even more lol: For the price of 1 skeleton vanguard, consider 2 FM pieces: a Crazy Hours (perhaps in a Long Island format) and a Yachting Vanguard. I’ve personally always liked the Yachting, depends on if you do also. (Caveat: Fully expect every watch snob to scoff and every new age social media type to think that you bought some RM knockoff). Or we can all save up and do a group buy for the Aeternitas and take turns wearing it. Timeshare on the wrist lol. |
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