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Old 29 March 2020, 10:34 AM   #4261
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Wonder if there is or will be a coherent plan to respond to the virus? Seems like everything is made up on the fly. Iím not being political, it seems to be the case from country to country. Certainly, there is no coordinated global procedure. The virus knows no borders. I think it would be good to formulate a plan of attack.
Agree my friend. But I doubt it.

The taking heads are all too busy playing their games.
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Old 29 March 2020, 10:37 AM   #4262
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We will get mandatory real lockdown it looks like for Tri state for 2 weeks, but it’s all good, whatever gets us through the fastest is best, our schools are week to week after 4/20 they said

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News just came out stating it was not happening.

My concern if it does, is that it won’t do enough. Yes, lockdown for two weeks or even a month to cut this off at the head. I’d be game for it. Absolutely.

But the facts appear to show it won’t stop anything at all. If even a handful of people have it. If even 1 person had it, it’s game on all over again.

That to me is the real scary part.
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Old 29 March 2020, 10:38 AM   #4263
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News just came out stating it was not happening.

My concern if it does, is that it wonít do enough. Yes, lockdown for two weeks or even a month to cut this off at the head. Iíd be game for it.

But the facts appear to show it donít stop anything at all. If even a handful of people have it. If even 1 person had it, itís game on all over again.

That to me is the real scary part.
Yeah I popped on news12 via Apple TV so donít know if it wasnít live but they were pushing it, also showing those idiots in Newark

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Old 29 March 2020, 10:40 AM   #4264
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Yeah I popped on news12 via Apple TV so donít know if it wasnít live but they were pushing it, also showing those idiots in Newark

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Iím afraid to ask. Whatís happening in Newark?
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Old 29 March 2020, 10:43 AM   #4265
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800 police warnings today to go inside and stay away from each other, it looked like spring break in Florida

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Old 29 March 2020, 10:45 AM   #4266
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800 police warnings today to go inside and stay away from each other, it looked like spring break in Florida

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Idiots.

I just read about a party in Ewing county. 47 people in a 550 sq ft apartment.

Shocking at how stupid people are.
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Old 29 March 2020, 10:52 AM   #4267
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Idiots.

I just read about a party in Ewing county. 47 people in a 550 sq ft apartment.

Shocking at how stupid people are.
Wow!!!!
Even without the social distancing still...
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Old 29 March 2020, 10:57 AM   #4268
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They had a f”ing Dj!

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Old 29 March 2020, 11:00 AM   #4269
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They had a fĒing Dj!

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Now they have big fines.

Good. Dopes.
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Old 29 March 2020, 11:06 AM   #4270
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Well Godspeed the Wuhan citizenry if loosening their restrictions proves unwise. But if loosening works with social distancing and increased hygiene then we all will learn something from their decision.

On restrictions here, my State leadership decided against it and deferred to Counties/Cities. My County decided yesterday to lockdown. But failed to give fair warning, it took place at Midnight that very day.

Reasonable exceptions and a small thing for me, but major immediate layoffs for all businesses that were “non-essential”. They are the ones who should be first in line for any business stimulus. I have been overnighting cash to family members who were caught completely off guard. Used Adult Signature Required due to amounts.

BTW, anyone shipping a watch via USPS, I learned they suspended collecting signatures in my area. On Registered and other signature required shipments, they knock on the door and are sure an adult takes the package but no signing the mobile device carriers use.

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Retailers in Australia are already refusing possible contaminated cash as payment (scan cards only) and some are not even allowing customers to approach the staff as there is a barrier line meters from the counter top.

Some pharmacies now have tables outside their premises where customers can submit prescriptions and they are only allowing access to one customer at a time to purchase items inside the shop.

It must be difficult in some countries because of the population numbers but we know that distance and isolation is paramount.
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Old 29 March 2020, 11:35 AM   #4271
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Thought Iíd share this article and update ...

Donít know if anyone has seen this yet.



https://www.teaparty247.org/dr-fauci...s-a-must-read/
Maybe take a look here and see if the death rate is being correctly tallied....

http://shanghaiist.com/2020/03/27/ur...-chinas-tally/

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Old 29 March 2020, 11:41 AM   #4272
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The numbers, mortality rates, recovery rates and all other parameters can be debated endlessly. However, right now in major state-of-the-art Emergency Departments, ICUs and academic hospitals, patients are overflowing on cots in the halls. Refrigerated trucks are being procured for body storage. And doctors and nurses are getting sick and dying of the disease they are so courageously battling. Name another time in modern medicine in the world when this has happened? Mortality rates be damned, this is an absolute disaster of proportions not seen in decades.
I agree.

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Old 29 March 2020, 12:11 PM   #4273
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my dad passed away today due to pneumonia caused by the virus. he was on a ventilator for 3 days and everything was looking a lot better then his heart just stopped. its really no joke, stay safe everyone.

58 years old and completely healthy, unbelievable
So very sorry to hear of your loss.
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Old 29 March 2020, 12:22 PM   #4274
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The numbers, mortality rates, recovery rates and all other parameters can be debated endlessly. However, right now in major state-of-the-art Emergency Departments, ICUs and academic hospitals, patients are overflowing on cots in the halls. Refrigerated trucks are being procured for body storage. And doctors and nurses are getting sick and dying of the disease they are so courageously battling. Name another time in modern medicine in the world when this has happened? Mortality rates be damned, this is an absolute disaster of proportions not seen in decades.
Joeychitwood, right there with you. People believe what they believe. Will end my commentary with that.
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Old 29 March 2020, 12:26 PM   #4275
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my dad passed away today due to pneumonia caused by the virus. he was on a ventilator for 3 days and everything was looking a lot better then his heart just stopped. its really no joke, stay safe everyone.

58 years old and completely healthy, unbelievable

Very sorry to hear that. Canít imagine your pain at this time, hope you can stay strong. Condolences to you and your family.


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Old 29 March 2020, 12:43 PM   #4276
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The numbers, mortality rates, recovery rates and all other parameters can be debated endlessly. However, right now in major state-of-the-art Emergency Departments, ICUs and academic hospitals, patients are overflowing on cots in the halls. Refrigerated trucks are being procured for body storage. And doctors and nurses are getting sick and dying of the disease they are so courageously battling. Name another time in modern medicine in the world when this has happened? Mortality rates be damned, this is an absolute disaster of proportions not seen in decades.
This!!
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Mortality rates being cited based on purely China data need to be relooked at.


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Notes about his care of patients:

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3102444
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Old 29 March 2020, 01:04 PM   #4279
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I can appreciate your zealousness but hereís
todayís stats . Pretty much in line with what
has already been assessed from even a month
ago . Still in the 1 to 2 % percentile death rate .
While no deaths are acceptable itís similar to
a seasonal influenza, per reports .

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Looks like the numbers are getting better


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That is one of the most interesting narratives Iíve read - scary, but interesting - thanks for posting it.


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Yup. Paul.....
Waiting for Joey....
Article is riveting. My heart goes out to front line medical heroes sacrificing themselves to heal the afflicted. So stressful. And the pit in the stomach, thinking of all the incredible hard work, creative thinking at the blink of an eye, determination to treat the sick no matter the existing barriers, electing not to eat or drink during the shift, and more - all this is impossible to fathom.
I am so thankful I am retired. At this stage of my life, I wouldn't be able to keep up if went back to work now.
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Lungs feel fine now. Just a low grade fever. I'm not sure if it was the passage of time or whether azithromycin killed it off. I know "antibiotics don't kill viruses" but it feels like they just did.

As for whether it's a disaster or not, do the numbers tell the whole story? If someone shows up at a hospital and is dying, why would testing them for an incurable virus be a priority
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Old 29 March 2020, 01:45 PM   #4284
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Did I read this correct that over 80% of patients that require/go on a ventilator, die?


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Lungs feel fine now. Just a low grade fever. I'm not sure if it was the passage of time or whether azithromycin killed it off. I know "antibiotics don't kill viruses" but it feels like they just did.

As for whether it's a disaster or not, do the numbers tell the whole story? If someone shows up at a hospital and is dying, why would testing them for an incurable virus be a priority
So glad you are feeling better.
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Lungs feel fine now. Just a low grade fever. I'm not sure if it was the passage of time or whether azithromycin killed it off. I know "antibiotics don't kill viruses" but it feels like they just did.



As for whether it's a disaster or not, do the numbers tell the whole story? If someone shows up at a hospital and is dying, why would testing them for an incurable virus be a priority


Glad you are over the hump symptom-wise. The Azithromycin May have staved off bacterium that could have led to pneumonia.

The ER doc in NOLA mentioned itís use too.


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So glad you are feeling better.
thanks Seth. Given that someone here lost a father, I know I lucked out compared to many, but hopefully my posts prepared other members for what a mild/moderate case could be like

I've never had chest pain or pneumonia before, so it's all pretty new to me and I assume it's caused by this new virus
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Very interesting read, thanks for sharing. Albeit scary I much rather know the facts as more gets discovered about this virus.

I'm also very interested to read Joey's thoughts on this or other things he's heard recently.
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Fauci is also saying he believes that those that have had it and recovered, are immune. He admits not enough evidence just yet. But he stated emphatically that this is his belief based on what he has seen.
Well, we already had few cases here in Italy that former patients previously declared free of virus became positive again after a few weeks, so...

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Lungs feel fine now. Just a low grade fever. I'm not sure if it was the passage of time or whether azithromycin killed it off. I know "antibiotics don't kill viruses" but it feels like they just did.

As for whether it's a disaster or not, do the numbers tell the whole story? If someone shows up at a hospital and is dying, why would testing them for an incurable virus be a priority
Great news , hope youíre 100 % soon
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