"bet" Reference Check

[ibzk]

Profile Link: https://www.rolexforums.com/member.php?u=251376
Sweet deal on a sub no date but I don't know if its too good to be true

[ibzk]

He just put up another watch for sale, a submariner hulk and at the same time has ghosted me.
I think he's a fraud

[omar10213245]

Originally Posted by ibzk

He just put up another watch for sale, a submariner hulk and at the same time has ghosted me.
I think he's a fraud

i pray to God you're wrong. i just wired him funds for a Hulk yesterday

[Watch Maniac]

Originally Posted by omar10213245

i pray to God you're wrong. i just wired him funds for a Hulk yesterday

Keep us updated

[omar10213245]

Originally Posted by Watch Maniac

Keep us updated

he texted me a tracking number for fedex last night, but as of this moment, fedex has yet to receive the parcel. coming from hawaii

[Watch Maniac]

It won't let me send him messages not sure why?

[ibzk]

Really hope its the real deal.
He's ghosted me on whatsapp but he told me the same thing, he was gonna ship from Hawaii

[omar10213245]

Sadly, I have to report that I can confirm, "Bet" (yeah, talk about an ironic twist on a screen name) was a con artist all along. One of the references he gave me was random dude in Illinois; he actually gave me the guy's email address. I'd emailed the guy yesterday but hadn't heard back yet, so, I went ahead and called him today (I know, I'm an idiot, I didn't bother actually calling him until AFTER I sent funds) and the dude immediately said "nope, I never bought any watch from anyone, it's a scam". As soon as I hung up the phone, I immediately notified the admins on here to ban the sonuvabitch, which, it looks like they've done.

So, so far I've reached out to my bank to see if there's a prayer of a chance that they can somehow recover the funds (doubtful), I still need to fill out a police report and I guess submit this to...who? FBI? FTC? I'm beyond sick right now.

oh, and as you might guess, that fedex tracking number still shows nothing being dropped off for shipment. Just a random, generated tracking number.

[EEpro]

Sorry man. That's just awful. Hopefully you forgive yourself in time.

[ibzk]

Man I'm extremely sorry to hear this - I was also very very close to wiring him the funds.
It's okay, take it easy, hopefully you're money will come back to you and I hope bet rots in hell!

[tike71]

Originally Posted by omar10213245

i pray to God you're wrong. i just wired him funds for a Hulk yesterday

There's a chance that the scammer is using another victim to receive the funds perpetrated from a "romance scam." The victim then forwards the scammer the money in a bid for love. Find out the contact info of the person you wired the money to, call them and explain your case. I know it's a small chance but someone who was scammed on here before was able to recover their funds.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=777418

[omar10213245]

Originally Posted by tike71

There's a chance that the scammer is using another victim to receive the funds perpetrated from a "romance scam." The victim then forwards the scammer the money in a bid for love. Find out the contact info of the person you wired the money to, call them and explain your case. I know it's a small chance but someone who was scammed on here before was able to recover their funds.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=777418

well, the only contact information i have is his email address, and the address in hawaii that he supplied when he gave me the bank wire information. and the name "Jewel Poole". In fact, here is all the information i got for the wire, in case someone else runs into this individual under a different name:

Citi bank
Account Name: jewel poole
Account Number: 40501634250
Account Type:checking
Routing Number: 113193532
Wire Routing: 321171184
Swift code: CITIUS33XXX
Home address:102 Omilu St, Wailuku, HI 96793

So if the scheme you described would be happening here, then there would theoretically be someone named "Jewel Poole" out there, whose account my money went to? How would I possibly even begin to be able to contact this person?

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by omar10213245

well, the only contact information i have is his email address, and the address in hawaii that he supplied when he gave me the bank wire information. and the name "Jewel Poole". In fact, here is all the information i got for the wire, in case someone else runs into this individual under a different name:

Citi bank
Account Name: jewel poole
Account Number: 40501634250
Account Type:checking
Routing Number: 113193532
Wire Routing: 321171184
Swift code: CITIUS33XXX
Home address:102 Omilu St, Wailuku, HI 96793

So if the scheme you described would be happening here, then there would theoretically be someone named "Jewel Poole" out there, whose account my money went to? How would I possibly even begin to be able to contact this person?

Contact the bank and tell them this account was used in a scam.

[T3rmina1]

Originally Posted by omar10213245

well, the only contact information i have is his email address, and the address in hawaii that he supplied when he gave me the bank wire information. and the name "Jewel Poole". In fact, here is all the information i got for the wire, in case someone else runs into this individual under a different name:

Citi bank
Account Name: jewel poole
Account Number: 40501634250
Account Type:checking
Routing Number: 113193532
Wire Routing: 321171184
Swift code: CITIUS33XXX
Home address:102 Omilu St, Wailuku, HI 96793

So if the scheme you described would be happening here, then there would theoretically be someone named "Jewel Poole" out there, whose account my money went to? How would I possibly even begin to be able to contact this person?

The address appears linked to the owner of some legitimate business
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_hi/115427D1
https://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/bu...umber=115427D1

[sski]

please please physically goto the bank in person rather than speaking to a customer service agent on the phone.
talk to the branch manager directly......it'll make a lot more difference than dealing over the phone. i hope you are able to recover the funds.

[omar10213245]

done. i'm about to go file the police report now. is there a FBI point of contact or unit to report such crimes to as well?

[sski]

is the bank being cooperative at least? will they potentially try and remedy this since its an outright fraud?

[omar10213245]

Originally Posted by sski

is the bank being cooperative at least? will they potentially try and remedy this since its an outright fraud?

well, they HAVE started an official investigation and they said they'd do everything in their power to recover the funds. i guess all i can do is be hopeful

[Watch Maniac]

Originally Posted by omar10213245

well, they HAVE started an official investigation and they said they'd do everything in their power to recover the funds. i guess all i can do is be hopeful

I had a weird feeling about this guy all along...

[omar10213245]

Originally Posted by Watch Maniac

I had a weird feeling about this guy all along...

normally i pride myself on not getting suckered on anything, but this one got me. blows my freakin' mind.

[ibzk]

Originally Posted by omar10213245

normally i pride myself on not getting suckered on anything, but this one got me. blows my freakin' mind.

I asked for social media accounts and he ghosted me..
btw if its of any use his number was a business account maybe that can be useful to investigate further

[T3rmina1]

That should have been a warning sign, because a search for the residents of that address does not return a Jewel Poole

[tike71]

Originally Posted by T3rmina1

That should have been a warning sign, because a search for the residents of that address does not return a Jewel Poole

That's the thing, red flags ignored and little amount of due diligence performed. No wonder scammers thrive here.

[ibzk]

Originally Posted by tike71

That's the thing, red flags ignored and little amount of due diligence performed. No wonder scammers thrive here.

its FOMO which leads to faster transactions and no due diligence - completely agree with you

[dhucke]

Wow, I traded emails with Bet about the no date Sub. Just did not get around to it and thought I would do a little checking. Just wow. I am so sorry Omar!

[omar10213245]

Originally Posted by dhucke

Wow, I traded emails with Bet about the no date Sub. Just did not get around to it and thought I would do a little checking. Just wow. I am so sorry Omar!

Glad you didnt take the bait like I did. xxxx that POS, he'll get his in hell

[ibzk]

Hey Omar, any update on getting your money back?

[omar10213245]

Originally Posted by ibzk

Hey Omar, any update on getting your money back?

so far, the investigation is continuing with the bank. and of course, nothing coming back from the sheriff's office...i doubt they'll be able to do, or bother pursuing, anything. the last day or so, i've pondered the thought as to whether it would be worth it to hire a private investigator, or if it would just be a waste of money...

[omar10213245]

well, for anyone wondering, nothing ever came of my bank's investigation into the matter, they said they were unable to recover my funds. and my local police said there wasn't really anything they could do. the folks at my state's attorney general office actually DID call me back, but only to let me know that there's really nothing they could do, either. at this point, i wonder if it would even be worth my time/money to hire a private investigator...jeez what an expensive mistake.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by omar10213245

well, for anyone wondering, nothing ever came of my bank's investigation into the matter, they said they were unable to recover my funds. and my local police said there wasn't really anything they could do. the folks at my state's attorney general office actually DID call me back, but only to let me know that there's really nothing they could do, either. at this point, i wonder if it would even be worth my time/money to hire a private investigator...jeez what an expensive mistake.

I’m truly sorry to hear about this Omar.