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Old 30 May 2023, 06:37 AM   #1
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starbucks vs batman

I am sure this topic has been discussed to death but I htought I will add my views as well.

For the first time today, I saw the two side by side. Actually, this was the first time my seeing new GMT and new submariner side by side. So below are some of my observations (again nothing new):

- Submariner feels a little smaller on wrist.

- Submariner is more understated of the two. One is becuase of the bracelet ofcourse with GMT having PCL but I think the bigger factor is the font/numbers on bezel. GMT has large font and it covers all of the bezel. Submariner on the other hand has small font and is not graduated, and looks a bit sleeker.

- Same as the second point above, the bezel on GMT is two colour, so bit more striking and with large font it pops significantly more. Only exception perhaps would be bright sunlight, where I expect the green to pop more from a distance.

- Batman does feel more verstaile given the blue/black colour scheme. Although think era green watches are also considered quite versatile these days. I usually wear blue a lot so I do have some doubts about starbucks being a viable daily watch for me. Any views from people who have it and wear blue a lot?

On the wrist I really liked both of them. My wife preferred BLNR but she agreed that from a daily watch perspective starbucks is a better choice (realtively understated) if I can be ok with wearing green with my blue shirts. But itnerestingly, she said she preferred my DJ41 Azzurro Blue on both these watches which I would have to sell to fund one of them. I was quite surprised but she doesnt know watches a lot so perhaps a hype free view. She didnt seem to have any strong obejctions, so I think she wouldnt mind whichever way I go :D
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Old 30 May 2023, 06:42 AM   #2
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LV is a bigger watch in everything but the lugs, which many here prefer over the thicker one. I love the BLNR. It can go without almost everything. Some love to mix and max colors and others do not. Buy what sings to you the most and don't sweat the rest.
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Old 30 May 2023, 06:47 AM   #3
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You really cannot loose either way. Both are great watches. For a daily thought, I report the LV. Admittedly I haven’t had the 6 digit GMT, but having two watches with pcls comparatively I think I would go with the Sub.

My wife actually says the same. She prefers my Datejust over any of my sports watches. She thinks they are all a bit ugly.
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Old 30 May 2023, 06:47 AM   #4
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Owned both and 3 different datejusts. Only the black sub date now. Datejust just felt wrong on my wrists. The fluted bezel looked old overtime and I always missed the black ceramic bezel when I didn’t have it on. Green is nice but can’t wear with everything, plus the black sub is classic and timeless. There is a reason it is the most iconic watch ever. My wife and son prefer the black sub date and appreciate their opinion. The lugs are too big on current GMTs, look forward to the updated case.
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Old 30 May 2023, 07:00 AM   #5
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I have all of them and love them all, no wrong choice here, just depends on individual preference. Go with the one that sings to you the most.
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Old 30 May 2023, 07:18 AM   #6
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Blnr, dj coming in close second because you can dress down the blnr better.

I have a DJ41 in blue, fluted and jubilee. After three years of ownership, I find it too dressy now.

Easier to match blue with anything compared to green and the gmt wears a little thinner compared to sub.

That being said, good to have all three :)
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Old 30 May 2023, 07:20 AM   #7
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If choosing between the two another factor to consider is that one is a diver and one is a GMT. The utility is different regardless of how they look. Which is more useful? For me it's a GMT function because I actually use it for working/traveling in different time zones. I don't dive or even swim.

Ideally, if building a collection, they are strong contenders for joint inclusion. In my case it's the 126710BLRO alongside the 116610LV. Each to our own.
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Old 30 May 2023, 08:36 AM   #8
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If choosing between the two another factor to consider is that one is a diver and one is a GMT. The utility is different regardless of how they look. Which is more useful? For me it's a GMT function because I actually use it for working/traveling in different time zones. I don't dive or even swim.

Ideally, if building a collection, they are strong contenders for joint inclusion. In my case it's the 126710BLRO alongside the 116610LV. Each to our own.
Utility wise, I just want a robust watch that can take the daily bearing which I think both are good enough for. I do have BLRO on jubliee, but I think BLNR on oyster is different enough to have both.

I dont have a diver so sub will sit better in my collection and overall I think I like it more but the only downside is that the colour may not go with everything (I am two minded about this point though).
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Old 30 May 2023, 09:10 AM   #9
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Utility wise, I just want a robust watch that can take the daily bearing which I think both are good enough for. I do have BLRO on jubliee, but I think BLNR on oyster is different enough to have both.

I dont have a diver so sub will sit better in my collection and overall I think I like it more but the only downside is that the colour may not go with everything (I am two minded about this point though).
I think the black sub would be a perfect complement to you DJ. I had the sub and blue DJ at one point.
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Old 30 May 2023, 09:17 AM   #10
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I wear a ton of blue. Navy to royal and I find the green actually compliments it. Wore it with a blue suit and it was perfect amount of color.

You can’t go wrong either way but I think the green on this sub is the best possible shade they could use. I would imagine the more lime color would be harder to just throw on with stuff.

I’m also not one for being too matchy either. The green is actually fairly subtle in most light so 9/10 people won’t even notice.

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Old 30 May 2023, 09:22 AM   #11
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I wear a ton of blue. Navy to royal and I find the green actually compliments it. Wore it with a blue suit and it was perfect amount of color.

You can’t go wrong either way but I think the green on this sub is the best possible shade they could use. I would imagine the more lime color would be harder to just throw on with stuff.

I’m also not one for being too matchy either. The green is actually fairly subtle in most light so 9/10 people won’t even notice.

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I agree the new green would be tougher to match. I couldn’t pull off blue and green, I know what the OP is thinking. Some people care, probably too much, about being matchy, like me lol.
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Old 30 May 2023, 10:28 AM   #12
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I wear a ton of blue. Navy to royal and I find the green actually compliments it. Wore it with a blue suit and it was perfect amount of color.

You can’t go wrong either way but I think the green on this sub is the best possible shade they could use. I would imagine the more lime color would be harder to just throw on with stuff.

I’m also not one for being too matchy either. The green is actually fairly subtle in most light so 9/10 people won’t even notice.

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Thanks mate, it actually helps a lot, especially the pictures. It does seem to go very well
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Old 30 May 2023, 10:33 AM   #13
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Old 30 May 2023, 10:49 AM   #14
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Since you have a BLRO, I'd suggest a black Sub unless you want the splash of green specifically in your collection.
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Old 30 May 2023, 11:08 AM   #15
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Since you already have a GMT, I’d get the diver
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Old 31 May 2023, 12:44 AM   #16
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IMO, it's not really a "vs" situation. They're both incredible watches that I think a lot of collectors will accumulate, depending on the size/composition of their collection.

As far as picking one, I prefer the brushed bracelet and have always had a soft spot for green bezeled subs. But, that doesn't mean I would rule out adding the BLRNR at some point. My two cents.
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Old 31 May 2023, 12:51 AM   #17
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I feel submariner bigger and heavier ..
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Old 31 May 2023, 12:55 AM   #18
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LV is my only Rolex. Wear it daily with anything from sweats to a suit and love it. Not once have I thought about the bezel possibly clashing with any outfit.

Personally, I don't think a watch needs to match and its not something I put any thought into when making my decision to get the green sub. That being said (since it sounds like you care), for a colored bezel, the green is pretty understated... It is under the radar enough that it isn't like you are making a fashion statement wearing the watch.
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Old 31 May 2023, 01:04 AM   #19
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Really depends on what situation.
Between these specific color for long term I will go for batman. IMO black and blue will age well than green.
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Old 31 May 2023, 02:34 AM   #20
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I dont have a diver so sub will sit better in my collection and overall I think I like it more but the only downside is that the colour may not go with everything (I am two minded about this point though).
I can definitely feel a Sub coming on there. All the best with it.
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Old 31 May 2023, 02:37 AM   #21
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Is the submariner 41 actually bigger than the gmt master 2? I know people say it’s feels bigger. But any measurements to prove this?


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For me it would be the BLNR since I refer to GMT several times daily. The blue and black bezel insert go with anything from t-shirt, shorts, and sandals to black tie. For recreational diving and swimming, the BLNR WR is quite adequate. The BLRO and BLNR look different enough that both can be in a collection.
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Old 31 May 2023, 03:35 AM   #23
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Funny you thought the Sub felt smaller. I have just purchased a black one and have had a black ceramic GMT in what feels like forever. Side by side, the sun feels decidedly larger to me.
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I would go with a Starbucks. A diver is much more practical for everyday use. Unless you do need to track an additional time-zone.
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Old 31 May 2023, 03:49 AM   #25
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I wear a lot of blue, and I thought the Starbucks when I had it looked great.
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Old 31 May 2023, 03:56 AM   #26
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I have a black sub and a BLNR. The lady has taken to wearing the sub lately, so BLNR has become my daily.
I will say it does go with nearly anything, and I do like the look. However, if I had to choose only one, LN sub.
The LN sub was my only watch for many years.


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Old 31 May 2023, 03:58 AM   #27
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LV is my only Rolex. Wear it daily with anything from sweats to a suit and love it. Not once have I thought about the bezel possibly clashing with any outfit.

Personally, I don't think a watch needs to match and its not something I put any thought into when making my decision to get the green sub. That being said (since it sounds like you care), for a colored bezel, the green is pretty understated... It is under the radar enough that it isn't like you are making a fashion statement wearing the watch.

I tend to disagree. My hulk definitely makes a presence on the wrist. It could be the dial though more so than bezel.


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Old 31 May 2023, 08:05 AM   #28
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thank you everyone for the comments. very helpful response from the forum as always :)
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Old 31 May 2023, 08:39 AM   #29
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GMT for me--BLNR is the choice among the options given. Although I sold both my BLNR and CHNR because to me the BLRO is the only GMT I desire.
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I own both of them, i think they're great.
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