Lug thickness the same for latest GMT II vs Sub 40?

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Potawatomi

There's more to the story. The 11 GMTs were in the supercase. When the 12 series came about we saw the slimming of the lugs. So you can't just say does a GMT have different case than a 40 sub? Which GMT do you have is the first question.

11 GMTs were different to 11 Subs. So, yes you can. Different (slimmer) lugs, different case thickness/height, different machining for the bezel and crown guards. Similar design, but not the same case.

There is much conjecture about 12 GMT's having slimmer lugs again than 11 GMTs. Rolex referred to it as reprofiled or redesigned from memory.

I see a very subtle re shaping between 11 and 12 GMTs.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Devildog

11 GMTs were different to 11 Subs. So, yes you can. Different (slimmer) lugs, different case thickness/height, different machining for the bezel and crown guards. Similar design, but not the same case.

There is much conjecture about 12 GMT's having slimmer lugs again than 11 GMTs. Rolex referred to it as reprofiled or redesigned from memory.

I see a very subtle re shaping between 11 and 12 GMTs.

Now the ultimate proving ground ….

We need someone with both to place side by side pics and measure as above

[ducatiti]

I’m glad we have some closure re modern gmt vs sub 41 :)

I would love to see the difference between the 116 vs 126 just for kicks…

[amh]

Originally Posted by amh

Same case



https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-bl...master-ii.html

Originally Posted by nighthawk77

I think on this photo the GMT definitely looks thinner...crown guards also look slightly different

That picture?

No - inconclusive. The watches in the photo are offset, you can tell by the alignment, just look at the edge of the bracelet. Annotated below


However Fredrik did post up a convincing image.

Originally Posted by Devildog

- "GMT lugs are skinnier than the 6-digit Sub40 " Not a rumour. Fact that anyone with half decent eyesight can see.

- "The newest 6-digit GMT lugs are skinnier than the slightly older ceramic GMT" Debatable, I agree.

In my opinion they're all the same: Supercase or Maxi case. Your opinion is valid to you, but wrong.

I'll admit. I was wrong! Wrong wrong wrong.




Next challenge: Measure the 11 and 12 series GMTs

[thesharkfactor]

They are different, they look and wear different to.
The GMT is slightly heavier and it sits flatter on the wrist.
GMT has a slightly deeper case than the Sub too.
The Sub has a deeper case back making it sit higher on the wrist and making it feel top heavy compared to the GMT.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by amh

That picture?

No - inconclusive. The watches in the photo are offset, you can tell by the alignment, just look at the edge of the bracelet. Annotated below

What is inconclusive? They are visibly different. You don't need to have them set with the bracelets aligned to see that

Originally Posted by amh

Next challenge: Measure the 11 and 12 series GMTs

Now that would be interesting

[Fredrik]

Originally Posted by amh

Next challenge: Measure the 11 and 12 series GMTs

Oh crap... I knew I shouldn't have measured, now I need to get an 11 series GMT...

[Kenny G]

IRL, there is no appreciable visual difference. They are both fatties. Anyone looking for a slimmer profile needs to go 5 digit or earlier. I have an 11 series and I love it for what it is but it’s chunky no question..

[ducatiti]

My initial impression from watching dozens of videos over the years, GMT lugs seem a tad bit smaller. Pictures above reflect this too. Not trying to start an argument but rather stating my opinion. It even shows the overall shape of the sub being "squarish" compared to the GMT being a little more tapered.

[AD337]

Sorry to dig this back up but damn I really thought you guys were trolling saying it was the same - or maybe Im just overly observant but to me that’s instantly recognizable is as extremely different

[Partners]

Originally Posted by AD337

Sorry to dig this back up but damn I really thought you guys were trolling saying it was the same - or maybe Im just overly observant but to me that’s instantly recognizable is as extremely different

You’re not overly observant. You are OCD like most others on this forum arguing about things that IRL dont matter. At least this isn’t a 32xx movement thread. Lol. Talk about OCD.

[JRell]

Had the BLNR. They really need to make the lugs smaller, bracelet wider, just like the sub41. I bet it’s coming next year or year after.

[AD337]

Originally Posted by JRell

Had the BLNR. They really need to make the lugs smaller, bracelet wider, just like the sub41. I bet it’s coming next year or year after.

So, I have to agree that they should do this..

However, I have to disagree that it’s coming anytime soon

I’d surely love to be wrong though :)

[JRell]

Originally Posted by AD337

So, I have to agree that they should do this..

However, I have to disagree that it’s coming anytime soon

I’d surely love to be wrong though :)

I feel like it is due. The black and gold gmt was a small release, nothing big. They are keeping status quo until the change. Subs first, Daytona was updated, my money is in the GMT next to change.

[ducatiti]

That would suck for current gmt Owners if the lugs get updated.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by JRell

Had the BLNR. They really need to make the lugs smaller, bracelet wider, just like the sub41. I bet it’s coming next year or year after.

Anything is possible, but considering the new Daytona is “blockier shaped” than the outgoing gen, I’m not so sure

IMHO there are trade offs with any changes they make. The clasp on the new Sub isn’t the greatest in size for some

[JRell]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Anything is possible, but considering the new Daytona is “blockier shaped” than the outgoing gen, I’m not so sure

IMHO there are trade offs with any changes they make. The clasp on the new Sub isn’t the greatest in size for some

I can see that. I had both the 40 and 41 subs and don’t notice the difference on the arm with the clasp, but do notice the lugs.

[ducatiti]

Hafiz has a good video comparing the two.