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Old 9 April 2019, 06:56 AM   #1
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Icon20 Date and time change not working

Hi. I need some help, please. I have a 16030 and the stem has come out. Bought a new stem put it in and it doesn’t change the time or date. So, I disassembled and put the stem into the two gears that should advance the time and date. 5025, 5026 and 5027 are the part numbers. The stem doesn’t seem to fit and just pushes through without “hooking” up. Shouldn’t the flat part of the stem turn the gears?

PLEASE DO NOT CHASTISE ME FOR TRYING TO DO THIS ON MY OWN. I know it’s not the smartest thing to do. Watch maker wants $1,500 to fix it. I’m retired and now on a very fixed income. Thanks
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Old 9 April 2019, 07:41 AM   #2
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I can’t help with the technical details, but I would shop a different watchmaker?
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Old 9 April 2019, 08:15 AM   #3
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The square section of the stem should fit the sliding pinion (the somewhat hourglass shaped part) such that when you turn the stem, the sliding pinion is rotated too.
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Old 9 April 2019, 08:18 AM   #4
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I certainly wouldn’t chastise you for trying it yourself, but I would caution against it when you are not overly familiar with repairing watches.

Tinkering with a cheap watch can be fun, but if you fail to get your Rolex working again it can/will be a costly lesson learned.
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Old 9 April 2019, 09:01 AM   #5
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. . . Watch maker wants $1,500 to fix it. I’m retired and now on a very fixed income. Thanks
The watch is barely worth that!!

If you cannot get it engaged, I would seek another watchmaker, this is a relatively simple fix by itself.
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Old 10 April 2019, 07:04 AM   #6
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The watch is barely worth that!!

If you cannot get it engaged, I would seek another watchmaker, this is a relatively simple fix by itself.
It was my understanding from how it was worded that the watch is now disassembled (or at least partially).

I can’t imagine many watchmakers will take the job on as a part repair now, and I would question the workmanship of those that did.

That being said $1500 was steep. Should be less.
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Old 10 April 2019, 11:28 AM   #7
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Thanks to all for helping. So far only six screws and two pieces plus two parts. The stem doesn’t turn the “hour glass” piece so that may be the issue.
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Old 10 April 2019, 12:07 PM   #8
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It must be in the air, I was advancing the date on my 1505 today and the crown just got loose and then came out. I took it over to a watch repair center nearby, I won't know any more till Friday, I hope it's nowhere near $1500. that's 75% of what it's worth fixed.

Are the quick set's less prone to something like this ?

Thanks Chris

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The older movements have a tiny screw that locks the stem into the movement. Sometimes that screw comes a little loose and allows it to slip out; it really is quite common.

Later movements use a spring-loaded lock and so the problem is much less common.
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Old 10 April 2019, 11:20 PM   #10
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" Tools" Thanks for the reply and the education, I will report back when I know more.

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Old 16 April 2019, 09:15 AM   #11
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Up-date, the crown stem broke, so while they are in there, I'm having all new gaskets,new crystal,new main spring, new crown. Pressure tested and service plus a dial swap { that I will provide } $795.00

It should be good to wear daily for a long time. I'm happy. Chris
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