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Old 22 March 2017, 10:38 PM   #1
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After seeing the Basel releases I am resuming to my favorite place on TRF...here!

Not a single new model IMO that leaned a bit towards Vintage Rolex...besides maybe the red text on the new 43mm! Sea-Dweller...: )

From my perspective there is a strong vintage trend now and prices are constantly increasing, even for previous mass produced models like 1601...why isn't Rolex picking up on this trend? Or am I just getting to old? : )
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Old 23 March 2017, 01:03 AM   #2
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Interesting to see that Omega released 3 commemorative re-issues at Basel World.
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Old 23 March 2017, 01:05 AM   #3
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I really want to like some of the modern Rolexes, including the 2017 releases, but they don't do much for me at all. The new SD at 43mm with a cyclops? No, thanks. The red text ain't nearly enough to make it appealing, IMHO.

The only modern Rolex I like is the BLNR GMT. That's a handsome watch, despite the PCLs. Everything else, including the Daytona-C, doesn't interest me much. And I've owned a couple of them. I'm sticking with anything acrylic!
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Old 23 March 2017, 01:56 AM   #4
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I really want to like some of the modern Rolexes, including the 2017 releases, but they don't do much for me at all. The new SD at 43mm with a cyclops? No, thanks. The red text ain't nearly enough to make it appealing, IMHO.

The only modern Rolex I like is the BLNR GMT. That's a handsome watch, despite the PCLs. Everything else, including the Daytona-C, doesn't interest me much. And I've owned a couple of them. I'm sticking with anything acrylic!
Hard to argue this heh.
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Old 23 March 2017, 02:09 AM   #5
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I think the Sea Dweller is actually attractive with a nod towards its vintage roots. The red text and minute track bezel look good to me, the cyclops not so much. I wonder if it's possible to order it without a cyclops? Retails for 11k, I imagine they will be tough to find.


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Old 23 March 2017, 02:20 AM   #6
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Not a single new model IMO that leaned a bit towards Vintage Rolex...besides maybe the red text on the new 43mm! Sea-Dweller...: )



From my perspective there is a strong vintage trend now and prices are constantly increasing, even for previous mass produced models like 1601...why isn't Rolex picking up on this trend? Or am I just getting to old? : )


I love vintage rolexes and i would prefer Rolex to not modernize vintage references, or in your words to pick up on this trend ...





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Old 23 March 2017, 03:12 AM   #7
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I think the Sea Dweller is actually attractive with a nod towards its vintage roots. The red text and minute track bezel look good to me, the cyclops not so much. I wonder if it's possible to order it without a cyclops? Retails for 11k, I imagine they will be tough to find.

Most likely a very long waiting list, although I'd imagine the 43mm case won't appeal to many of the old-school Sub/SD lovers, myself included, that this anniversary model was supposed to appeal to. I didn't even like the 40mm SD-C. Owned it a month and flipped it. Too darn heavy.

I doubt you could order the new SD without the cyclops, but perhaps it could be removed like on other sapphire models. Still, perhaps it's a new type of crystal with the cyclops actually part of the crystal and not just glued on. We'll find out soon enough, because there'll certainly be guys trying to do that.
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Old 23 March 2017, 06:43 AM   #8
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I think the Sea Dweller is actually attractive with a nod towards its vintage roots. The red text and minute track bezel look good to me, the cyclops not so much. I wonder if it's possible to order it without a cyclops? Retails for 11k, I imagine they will be tough to find.

Sorry I'm not understanding this at all......the only nod I see would be a line of red text. Everything about the watch defies the Sea Dweller heritage (size....did you see that thickness? , glossy dial, and the cyclops).....I was 1st in line @ my favorite boutique and they called me this morning, already pulled out. There would be no way I'd buy this watch blind......I'm not writing it off but I can say it's with high likelihood it won't get added to the stable. But you know, there's a market for everything and I have no doubt it'll do ok as part of the "new" Rolex line up.
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Old 23 March 2017, 04:22 PM   #9
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I think it would be cool if Rolex could release something more vintage inspired like this as an anniversary model:

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Old 23 March 2017, 10:34 PM   #10
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I think a faithful 're-issue' would be quite a nice addition, but I doubt they'll ever do it.
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Old 23 March 2017, 10:38 PM   #11
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Old 23 March 2017, 10:52 PM   #12
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I agree. The vintage hunt continues for me.
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Old 23 March 2017, 11:07 PM   #13
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as a vintage nut, I'm perhaps in the minority, but Im on the list for the new 43mm SD:

am digging the DUALITY of both,
'vintage cues' (cyclops, red line)
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modern appointments (ceramic insert, bigger size).

its not a replacement for a vintage Rolex, rather a complement to a vintage Rolex.

Im looking forward to add it to the rotation.
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Old 23 March 2017, 11:14 PM   #14
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Not a single new model IMO that leaned a bit towards Vintage Rolex...besides maybe the red text on the new 43mm! Sea-Dweller...: )

From my perspective there is a strong vintage trend now and prices are constantly increasing, even for previous mass produced models like 1601...why isn't Rolex picking up on this trend? Or am I just getting to old? : )
Rolex are probably aware of the vintage/toolwatch interest or trend alright though perhaps conclude this is representative of only a very small element of their much wider customer base, and respond accordingly in terms of development and new releases?
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Old 23 March 2017, 11:19 PM   #15
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I really want to like some of the modern Rolexes, including the 2017 releases, but they don't do much for me at all. The new SD at 43mm with a cyclops? No, thanks. The red text ain't nearly enough to make it appealing, IMHO.

The only modern Rolex I like is the BLNR GMT. That's a handsome watch, despite the PCLs. Everything else, including the Daytona-C, doesn't interest me much. And I've owned a couple of them. I'm sticking with anything acrylic!
Rolex should take a page out of Omega's book and do a 6263 re-issue and price it at $20k. each of these '57 Omega re-issues will sell out within days. people are going crazy over them. i doubt it will ever happen, unfortunately, but Omega is showing there is a very, very large segment of the WIS community that will line up to buy these. seriously, how many $20k SS 6263 re-issues do you need to sell to make it a massive slam dunk? over on OF, there are guys selling vintage pieces to get these, guys who have never bought a new watch from Omega with deposits down, etc. it is a missed opportunity imo. look at how crazy people were, and still are, regarding the 116500. why? bc it the closest Rolex has come to a 6263 in nearly 30 years. vintage is obviously hot. other brands are capitalizing on it, and rolex is just brushing the surface with a WG Pepsi, black bezel Daytona, and a red text SD.
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Old 24 March 2017, 12:20 AM   #16
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Rolex should take a page out of Omega's book and do a 6263 re-issue and price it at $20k. each of these '57 Omega re-issues will sell out within days. people are going crazy over them. i doubt it will ever happen, unfortunately, but Omega is showing there is a very, very large segment of the WIS community that will line up to buy these. seriously, how many $20k SS 6263 re-issues do you need to sell to make it a massive slam dunk? over on OF, there are guys selling vintage pieces to get these, guys who have never bought a new watch from Omega with deposits down, etc. it is a missed opportunity imo. look at how crazy people were, and still are, regarding the 116500. why? bc it the closest Rolex has come to a 6263 in nearly 30 years. vintage is obviously hot. other brands are capitalizing on it, and rolex is just brushing the surface with a WG Pepsi, black bezel Daytona, and a red text SD.
I totally agree!
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Old 24 March 2017, 08:27 PM   #17
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100% agree, but are we bias. When ever a new release by Rolex appears I find myself comparing it to the classics. Maybe to a new generation these watches are appealing, I don't know. On a side note I love omega's and adore the speedmaster but god I hate omega. Seems every time someone looks into space omega feel they must release a limited edition watch to commemorate the occasion. I would love to know exactly how many limited edition speedys have been released. I just feel enough is enough and let the speedy just be the speedy. A great watch with rich heritage.
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Old 24 March 2017, 10:04 PM   #18
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I second this! After Basel 2017 releases the only thing I am hunting is a nice 62510H for my 16710 GMT.
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Old 25 March 2017, 12:07 AM   #19
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Omega killed it with those three homage pieces IMO....especially the Railmaster....I will own one but Rolex' new offerings aren't anything to write home about with the exception of that Cellini Moonphase...super bummed about the changes made to the SD...oh well, life goes on
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Old 25 March 2017, 02:02 AM   #20
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Old 25 March 2017, 02:45 AM   #21
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One of the reasons that Cartier occupies the place it does in the jewelry pantheon is that every piece is recognizably, well, Cartier. When Rolex holds true to this, the design team is at its best. That's why I love the design of the Oysterquartz: it is true to the earlier Viceroy and Observatory models. The new Air-King is an example: totally new, but clearly Rolex, whether you love or hate it. We forget that for every "iconic" design, there were also many "also-rans", justly shrouded by the mists of time. Many, many boring Rolex through the decades: they make the others stick out. Imagine a giant version (40-43mm) of the Zephyr. If they maintained the slim profile that makes the Zephyr a classic, I'd be very interested, but there is room to make the dial unique.
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