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ratoy77 · 2 September 2018, 11:59 AM

Hello all! Just need some help on the description of my GMT. Is it safe to say that it has gilt dial, chapter ring, and underline? Serial no 1,3xx,xxx. Also curious about the possible value. I had this watch since 1995 and made possible by a Japanese watch collector who traded this Gmt for my Breitling. He was trying to complete his collection and mine was the missing piece from his collection. No box. Any input by the masters will be highly appreciated.

1665fan · 2 September 2018, 12:13 PM

I don’t see the chapter ring......

BigBlue1 · 2 September 2018, 01:41 PM

Can’t help you, but that is a beautiful insert.

Tom1675 · 2 September 2018, 02:27 PM

It is an underline no chapter ring dial. Maybe a gilt v. 3. Lume is all but gone. Is there cracking on the dial or is it scratches on the crystal? Also, whats up at the 11 o'clock marker, is that a ding in the dial? Same at 6 o'clock.

We will need more pics to properly scrutinize this piece and help you clarify the positives and negatives to help you come up with a valuation.

ratoy77 · 2 September 2018, 03:58 PM

Ok got it, no chapter ring. I have a vague idea what it is. The description was given to me by my watchmaker back in late 90s. The 11 o'clock marker has a scratch on the right top side, maybe scratches on the lower part of the dial, and yes lume is all but gone. I thought about having the dial restored but thought it may devalue the watch so i leaving it be. Faded bezel and plastic glass has scratches. It keeps good time, maybe advance 2 mins. a month.

ratoy77 · 2 September 2018, 04:07 PM

Also looking for a reputable, dependable good watchmaker to service this piece maybe by next year. prefer in Los Angeles area.

mrj115 · 3 September 2018, 12:21 AM

LA Watchworks in Pasadena does good work but get it to them soon if you want it back by the end of the calendar year.

roh123 · 3 September 2018, 12:25 AM

I am afraid that dial is much earlier than the watch. It should sit in a 1963 pointed crown guard case.

steversaurus · 3 September 2018, 02:01 AM

Now I'm curious what Breitling you traded it for.

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ratoy77 · 3 September 2018, 11:58 PM

i'm not sure what kind, could be a Navitimer. all black dial with 3 small dials and black leather strap.

2 September 2018, 01:41 PM	#3
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	Can’t help you, but that is a beautiful insert. __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

3 September 2018, 12:25 AM	#8
roh123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Per Location: Sweden Watch: Gilt Rolex Posts: 2,946	I am afraid that dial is much earlier than the watch. It should sit in a 1963 pointed crown guard case. __________________ Instagram: @perj123

2 September 2018, 12:13 PM	#2
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,591	I don’t see the chapter ring......

2 September 2018, 02:27 PM	#4
Tom1675 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Tom Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,172	It is an underline no chapter ring dial. Maybe a gilt v. 3. Lume is all but gone. Is there cracking on the dial or is it scratches on the crystal? Also, whats up at the 11 o'clock marker, is that a ding in the dial? Same at 6 o'clock. We will need more pics to properly scrutinize this piece and help you clarify the positives and negatives to help you come up with a valuation.

2 September 2018, 03:58 PM	#5
ratoy77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Russ Location: california, usa Watch: 1965 gmt master Posts: 15	Ok got it, no chapter ring. I have a vague idea what it is. The description was given to me by my watchmaker back in late 90s. The 11 o'clock marker has a scratch on the right top side, maybe scratches on the lower part of the dial, and yes lume is all but gone. I thought about having the dial restored but thought it may devalue the watch so i leaving it be. Faded bezel and plastic glass has scratches. It keeps good time, maybe advance 2 mins. a month.

2 September 2018, 04:07 PM	#6
ratoy77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Russ Location: california, usa Watch: 1965 gmt master Posts: 15	Also looking for a reputable, dependable good watchmaker to service this piece maybe by next year. prefer in Los Angeles area.

3 September 2018, 12:21 AM	#7
mrj115 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SF Posts: 39	LA Watchworks in Pasadena does good work but get it to them soon if you want it back by the end of the calendar year.

3 September 2018, 02:01 AM	#9
steversaurus "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Vancouver Posts: 154	Now I'm curious what Breitling you traded it for. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

3 September 2018, 11:58 PM	#10
ratoy77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Russ Location: california, usa Watch: 1965 gmt master Posts: 15	i'm not sure what kind, could be a Navitimer. all black dial with 3 small dials and black leather strap.

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