Submariner 14060M

[feudallordcult]

great review. to be honest, the sub ND is actually on my list after the polar expII.

[Ed Rooney]

Originally Posted by spaggio

Hope you like some pics :)

Those are wonderful photos of a great watch. I might have a COSC 14060M in my future.

[mike]

Great review and photos guys. Couldn't agree more.



The blood line lives.

[T_T]

[Mr.RadioActive]

Enjoyed your pics, and write up. I just bought a later year model of this, and cant wait for it to arrive. Its going to be my "rolex" beater! its a watch Ive wanted for a long time.
Enjoy!

[stevemulholland3]

great write up!!

[rarebear]

Thanks for the review ! I have the 14060M since 2001 and still love it , sometimes I wear my Omgea Speedmaster professional but after a day I miss the Sub and feel happy to put it on again !

The 3130 movement is one of the best Rolex ever made !

[timackerman]

I love reading this review. Every 30 seconds or so I look at my wrist and see the same thing

[wust588]

Great review, and an all time great watch. I'm lusting after one already. Maybe if I could realise enough cash through my 1665 SD, I could have one to replace it. And be left with money to pay the day to day bills.
I'll have to think about it when it's back from it's service.
John.

[darwin1992]

Totally agree about your reason for having the sub. I own an Explorer II black face. I love this watch and it's a great 'everyday' watch for work and stuff. I travel a lot and am looking to move somewhere where I can swim, surf, sail a lot so I decided today to purchase a Sub non date. To me it's just the right kind of watch to have with me for all occasions. Simple. elegant but rugged enough to do anything with. It's not just a watch. It's a part of the person wearing it!

[Hassie]

Yes, it is a great piece and a great review!

[gmtobsessed]

Very nice review! I am totall agree with you Ed. I'm not a big fan of cyclops in watches.

Can anyone please let me know the difference between 14060 and 14060M?
And since when the "M" start produced? or starting with which serial number?

Many thanks guys

[boa2]

Originally Posted by gmtobsessed

Very nice review! I am totall agree with you Ed. I'm not a big fan of cyclops in watches.

Can anyone please let me know the difference between 14060 and 14060M?
And since when the "M" start produced? or starting with which serial number?

Many thanks guys

FROM ROLEXFORUMS.NL:

Reference 14060 was introduced in 1989, concurrently with the new Submariner Date 16610, with the new caliber 3000. This watch was produced for 10 years, from 1989 through 1999. It introduced the white gold surrounds to the hour markers, sapphire crystal, and new fast-beat 28,800 BPH movement. The difference between the caliber 3000 as used in the non-date reference 14060 versus the caliber 3135 used in the 16610 Submariner Date is, obviously the lack of date complication and the absence of C.O.S.C. certification.

Finally, the reference 14060M, marks the last meaningful upgrade to the Submariner line. The 14060M was introduced to replace the 14060. The meaningful difference being an improved caliber 3130, which features a balance bridge for increased shock protection and improved operating rate (i.e.: better timekeeping) and improved winding system.

[gmtobsessed]

Thank you for the info boa2!

I also notice in the same 14060M that there are 2 different writing on the dial, I spotted Y series with only "submariner 1000ft=300m" plus newer M series with additional "superlative chrono.......". Is it how you differentiate non COSC and COSC??

Thank you again

[boa2]

Originally Posted by gmtobsessed

Thank you for the info boa2!

I also notice in the same 14060M that there are 2 different writing on the dial, I spotted Y series with only "submariner 1000ft=300m" plus newer M series with additional "superlative chrono.......". Is it how you differentiate non COSC and COSC??

Thank you again

Precisely. About a year ago, the 14060M became the COSC version. It has the additional writing on the dial, and the ROLEXROLEXROLEX on the rehaut. Those are the only two changes. Mine, for example, was produced just before those two changes appeared.

[gmtobsessed]

Well answered! Thank You boa2!

[boa2]

Originally Posted by gmtobsessed

Well answered! Thank You boa2!

You're quite welcome.

[sambone274]

Great write up. Now I think I need one! Damn you.

[GMTII Owner]

I'm seriously considering the Sub ND as my next Rolex purchase whenever that may be. I like the simplicity and the overall look is awesome. Thanks for sharing your thoughts as it reinforces my feelings on the watch.

John

[hooked]

Why does the 1000ft=300m look different on some of the new subs? Sone of them have more distance between the = sign and the 300 M. If you look at the pis in this thread. The first pics shoe a big difference. My COSC no date sub looks even and doesn't have that great of distance.

[DSJ]

Originally Posted by boa2

Precisely. About a year ago, the 14060M became the COSC version. It has the additional writing on the dial, and the ROLEXROLEXROLEX on the rehaut. Those are the only two changes. Mine, for example, was produced just before those two changes appeared.

Still love your watch, Boa, and to think I came pretty close to buying it!
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=29726

I'm very content with my Explorer II, though!

[Trurolexer]

Very nice review, Pal!!!

[rarebear]

Ed ! great story.. I bought my 14060M in 2001 after selling my 6541 Milgauss for a small fortune ! I always wanted the Sub and I feel naked when I wear my other high end watches... after a day I haste to get the sub on my wrist again ... it´s a friend !!!!

[elijahenoch]

I have the same watch. At first i had buyers remorse ,but now i have no regrets at all.
I think this watch is sharp.

[leungbing]

Thanks for sharing!!

[boyet]

I'm new here, reading all this makes me happy that i got one . . . W serial, bought it pre owned. Really love this watch . . .

[KLM]

It is my only Rolex and my Favorite Rolex! Great review, Thank You!

[ROGERB]

Originally Posted by boa2

FROM ROLEXFORUMS.NL:

Reference 14060 was introduced in 1989, concurrently with the new Submariner Date 16610, with the new caliber 3000. This watch was produced for 10 years, from 1989 through 1999. It introduced the white gold surrounds to the hour markers, sapphire crystal, and new fast-beat 28,800 BPH movement. The difference between the caliber 3000 as used in the non-date reference 14060 versus the caliber 3135 used in the 16610 Submariner Date is, obviously the lack of date complication and the absence of C.O.S.C. certification.

Finally, the reference 14060M, marks the last meaningful upgrade to the Submariner line. The 14060M was introduced to replace the 14060. The meaningful difference being an improved caliber 3130, which features a balance bridge for increased shock protection and improved operating rate (i.e.: better timekeeping) and improved winding system.

I found this interesting as I have a 89 16610 and my booklet shows the non date as a 5513/0 with a 200m(660 feet) depth rating??
R

[Baha Turker]

Originally Posted by Teofilo

Great review Ed.....The Sub ND was my first expensive watch too and it really is a "go anywhere" sort of watch. I know some people dont like the term tool watch, but stuff it....the 14060M is as tool as Rolex gets !

Dear Freind,
Hold on to your Sub no date and Gmt master II,16710 is already discontined
Sub no date is soon going to be
Best Regards
Baha Turker

[SadikP]

Great review & great pics guys.

That's it, I'm getting myself a Sub ND, been putting it off too long