Would you pay more for a correctly oriented crown?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by notknifescience

Hey everyone! New to these forums and thought I’d start a discussion around something that’s been interesting to me. Rolex makes incredibly high quality timepieces...and the fact that the crown isn’t always right side up has always bothered me. They’ve fixed this in the newer OP watches, so it’s clearly within their capabilities, but not yet on their other models.

But occasionally you find a watch that just so happens to have the crown oriented correctly. Would you pay extra for such a watch? If it was a grail watch for you, would you care about the perfect orientation? Or do most people not care?

Anyone have any idea if on future sports models Rolex will try and orient the crowns just like on the newer OPs?

Its only those with OCD would care if the emblem was upright or downside up its a winding crown for winding your watch.It's not meant to be looked at 24/7 perhaps they should get rid of the crown emblem then everyone crown would line up somewhere.

[TonyYu]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Sorry Tony, I thought we were talking about new Rolex watches bought from an AD?

You bought from AD, but you can bring it somewhere to fix it, no?

AD cannot do anything about your misaligned watch. They just selling whatever they have from Rolex, and I couldnt believe AD has the correct skillset to do any sort of repairing for u. I won't bring back my watch to AD for anything simply because I dont trust they can do the correct thing.

I was talking about if someone bother about the misalignment, and wanted to pay for more for an aligned watch. It would be as good as buying a misaligned watch from AD and bring it somewhere else to fix. For example RSC or your favorite repairing shop.

[joli160]

That's why I bought my RG SkyD, always aligned

[Brew]

This only becomes a consideration when these threads pop up. I look, then go on with my day.

[TonyYu]

Originally Posted by joli160

That's why I bought my RG SkyD, always aligned

Why is that? Happy to learn.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by TonyYu

You bought from AD, but you can bring it somewhere to fix it, no?

AD cannot do anything about your misaligned watch. They just selling whatever they have from Rolex, and I couldnt believe AD has the correct skillset to do any sort of repairing for u. I won't bring back my watch to AD for anything simply because I dont trust they can do the correct thing.

I was talking about if someone bother about the misalignment, and wanted to pay for more for an aligned watch. It would be as good as buying a misaligned watch from AD and bring it somewhere else to fix. For example RSC or your favorite repairing shop.

Hi Tony,

A RSC is Rolex and if Rolex can’t sort out the crown alignment from new how does a RSC do it?

I have a local AD but they send all Rolex work to Melbourne RSC.

A round trip of 1600km.

[Harry-57]

If, every so often, one finds a watch which just happens to have the crown orientated correctly, then by default, there is no correct crown orientation. Or to look at it another way, all orientations are correct. BMW got over a perceived alignment issue with it's RR hub caps badges by fitting a system which always rotated them right way up, no matter what the wheel rotation was. Might make a watch a bit on the large side.

[TonyYu]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Hi Tony,

A RSC is Rolex and if Rolex can’t sort out the crown alignment from new how does a RSC do it?

You really think guys here donno RSC stand for Rolex Service Center and it is operate under Rolex.

Hence, I said one can also bring the watch to your favorite repair shop. Also, I think RCS can definitely fix your but not all. It just take a passionated technician and spent time to do it.

And now, I think of something about your ability to reason

[Andad]

Originally Posted by TonyYu

Hence, I said one can also bring the watch to your favorite repair shop. Also, I think RCS can definitely fix your but not all. It just take a passionated technician and spent time to do it.

I think of something about your ability to reason

Can’t be done Tony unless you have unlimited funds then everything is possible.

As for your insult.

Good luck with that.

[TonyYu]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Can’t be done Tony unless you have unlimited funds then everything is possible.

That mean it can be done then. If you think your cannot be done doesn't mean for others.

[travisb]

Crazy.

[minute_man]

No, I wouldn't pay anything extra. The upright crowns as presented on Rolex website are more of a..."serving suggestion" to me

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by TonyYu

You really think guys here donno RSC stand for Rolex Service Center and it is operate under Rolex.

Hence, I said one can also bring the watch to your favorite repair shop. Also, I think RCS can definitely fix your but not all. It just take a passionated technician and spent time to do it.

And now, I think of something about your ability to reason

It has nothing to do with passion or skill, it is several screw threads that are coming together being screwed down, the crown orientation is completely random.

There is nothing to 'fix', it is just the way it is designed...

[Mephist]

Yes I would and so would most others here. If the price went up $50 no one would care or even know it was because the crown is now correctly oriented.

[GreatHarry]

Originally Posted by Amochosto

My Sky-Dweller crown is not aligned.

Neither is mine, although it is only a SS model, somebody mentioned that the PM SkyD's crown is aligned "correctly". And by the way, no I wouldn't pay anything extra for a "correctly" aligned crown, whatever that means. A mate of mine tells me his Milgauss crown is pointing to the "12" position, i.e. in a horizontal position.
By the way, why is that only the PM SkyD's crowns aligned "correctly the DD is the Flag Ship watch). As far as I can tell/work out, it has nothing to do with the command bezel, more likely, & I'm no watch maker, the position of the crown tube, after insertion into the case and the orientation of the "male" screw threads, with the "female" crown screw threads, would surly determine alignment.
I think that it's kind of quaint that the crown is "off centre" and not "perfect". I can understand that in the Rolex brochures it will be aligned as a marketing ploy. Some wise guy might suggest that Rolex aren't any good, since they can't get the coronet aligned up/down.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by TonyYu

Why is that? Happy to learn.

Only the PM SkyD has a mechanism in the crown which always aligns the crown when you screw it down. It's the only Rolex which has this feature and it is a very nice little detail

[TonyYu]

Originally Posted by SearChart

It has nothing to do with passion or skill, it is several screw threads that are coming together being screwed down, the crown orientation is completely random.

There is nothing to 'fix', it is just the way it is designed...

Em. I am just wondering this.

When I took my watch every five year for disassembly and oiling, will it come back with exactly the same degree of misaligned orientation every time. I think probably not, and it will be random.

If it is a result of randomness, and one need to do is to try a lot more to get the desire result. Just like people playing in casino, isn't it.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by TonyYu

Em. I am just wondering this.

When I took my watch every five year for disassembly and oiling, will it come back with exactly the same degree of misaligned orientation every time. I think probably not, and it will be random.

If it is a result of randomness, and one need to do is to try a lot more to get the desire result. Just like people playing in casino, isn't it.

Tube is standard replacement, you want a watchmaker to try 10 different tubes until the crown lines up properly? I have better things to do.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by joli160

Only the PM SkyD has a mechanism in the crown which always aligns the crown when you screw it down. It's the only Rolex which has this feature and it is a very nice little detail

This shows the patented construction;

[Rock]

At the start of a new month, I wind my watches and adjust the time.
The Crown never ends up in the same orientation as it was before I did that.
Occasionally one of the Crowns will end up "the right way" as in the Rolex advertising, but most of the time the orientation is unpredictable.(i.e. different each time)
Is that the consensus? (with the exception of the PM SkyD apparently)

[padi56]

Originally Posted by TonyYu

Em. I am just wondering this.

When I took my watch every five year for disassembly and oiling, will it come back with exactly the same degree of misaligned orientation every time. I think probably not, and it will be random.

If it is a result of randomness, and one need to do is to try a lot more to get the desire result. Just like people playing in casino, isn't it.

Show me anywhere that Rolex states that the winding crown must be aligned with anything.Yes in the Rolex pictures they are aligned and date set at 28th and time around 10 past 10 but thats just for pictures.Much like the pictures of various fast food outlets, but in the real world product does not always look the same when bought.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by SearChart

It has nothing to do with passion or skill, it is several screw threads that are coming together being screwed down, the crown orientation is completely random.

There is nothing to 'fix', it is just the way it is designed...

Bas I have been trying the same explanation for almost 14 years afraid you will never please todays Rolex wearers.First it was the hologram stickers thankfully Rolex got rid of those.Then it was serial numbers,now we have alignment points,accuracy some wanting to regulate for half a second.New 32 series movement many now moaning about the noise of the rotor,I sometime wonder why they buy Rolex watches perhaps to find something to moan about..

[Coop13]

Originally Posted by Oat Willy

the crown position changes when you set the time, doesn't it??

No....

[Innocenti]

Originally Posted by joli160

Only the PM SkyD has a mechanism in the crown which always aligns the crown when you screw it down. It's the only Rolex which has this feature and it is a very nice little detail

I didn’t know this , very cool.
I’ve looked at the below picture and it’s not immediately apparent how they do it. (I’ll go look again)
I would definitely prefer the crown to line up perfectly on all Rolex, mainly because it would show the extra effort in manufacturing.

Answer to the original question of would I pay more - no I already pay enough

[Innocenti]

figured the diagram now, Very clever and simple.
Rolex should do this on all the watches

[eco8gator]

I think it would be cool if Rolex figured this out I wouldn't pay extra for it though...

[Norbert]

Originally Posted by padi56

Its only those with OCD would care if the emblem was upright or downside up its a winding crown for winding your watch.It's not meant to be looked at 24/7 perhaps they should get rid of the crown emblem then everyone crown would line up somewhere.

Yea and judging by a lot of threads on this forum, there aren't a lot of those buying Rolex. lol. With all its engineering might, Rolex should make this standard like on the Skydweller.

[DahMan]

I can barley see the crown, so no.

[peterpl]

If your this OCD buy a Precious Metal SkyDweller.

[thesharkfactor]

No I wouldn't pay more, no way.. crazy. Currently, my own is way off, however, you guys could just loosen it back a little, or torque it forward and it would be right(?) you going to pay more now? It's random.

I know what to do now if I ever sell this one, I'll line the crown up for the pics and put the price up to catch you OCD guys out.