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23 May 2020, 03:15 AM | #1 |
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Independant Dress Watch: Ophion vs Lundis Bleus vs Sartory Billard
Ok so I'm looking to add a dress or semi dress watch to my collection. I never really wear dress watches but I think they are beautiful and would like to add something that doesn't break the bank and still is a bit special.
I have narrowed it down to the following 3 brands: Ophion Sartory Billard Lundis Bleus All of them are more or less priced similar and between 2500 and 4000 usd. The models I am looking at are - Ophion: Ophion OPH 786 Vélos Blue Guilloche (EUR 2950,-) http://www.ophion-watches.com/order-...-plus-shipping What I like: Dial, Dial color, Breguet numerals, lugs, Case made by Voutilainen Lundis Bleus: Royal blue with enamel dial (CHF 4092,-) https://lundis-bleus.com/en/produit/...al-blue-black/ What I like: Dial made of enamel mostly. Not too keen on the large outer track and the sellita movement at this price range Sartory Billard: SB04 with Meteorite Dial (EUR 2500,-) https://sartory-billard.com/en/sb04-...-lume-indexes/ What I like: Dial made of meteorite - never owned a meteorite dial watch before and feels sorta special. Also like the case. SB04 with blue Titanium dial (EUR 2700,-) https://sartory-billard.com/en/sb04-...titanium-dial/ The company is mostly known for this dial and apparently has to be appreciated in person. Is said to be like FP Journe chronometre bleu. What I like: the blue dial. Not too keen on the numerals but can be customized so would change those to the same as above meteorite watch. https://sartory-billard.com/en/sb04-...titanium-dial/ Thoughts? Thanks! |
23 May 2020, 04:04 AM | #2 |
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I've been following Sartory Billard recently on IG and the watches are intriguing. Might be a bit demure for you based on the ones you posted but have you looked at Staudt out of the Netherlands? https://www.staudt-twenthe.com/
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23 May 2020, 09:43 PM | #3 |
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I have the Ophion on order, and should arrive soon. So that was my first choice. I made the choice mostly because of the look, but also because I think it has everything - dial, movement, case, all the best quality at the price point. Both the lundis bleus and sartory are beautiful watches, but with slightly boring movements.
That said I'm really eyeing the sartory billard. I think the dial is really good looking, and I enjoy how Armand is very open about his work and lets you customize a good amount of the dial. I'd definitely go for the blued titanium dial though. If a meteorite dial is what you're after you can pick up a Zelos for a lot less money. Lundis bleus seem like really quality watches too, with true grand feu enamel that is only rivaled by anOrdain at the price point. I just don't think the watches have that special something that the sartory and ophion has, so this would be last on my list. It's all up to personal taste though, I don't think you can go wrong with any of those watches. They are all really high up there in the independant/micro market, and really above most smaller brands if you ask me. |
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I have the Ophion on order, and should arrive soon. So that was my first choice. I made the choice mostly because of the look, but also because I think it has everything - dial, movement, case, all the best quality at the price point. Both the lundis bleus and sartory are beautiful watches, but with slightly boring movements.
That said I'm really eyeing the sartory billard. I think the dial is really good looking, and I enjoy how Armand is very open about his work and lets you customize a good amount of the dial. I'd definitely go for the blued titanium dial though. If a meteorite dial is what you're after you can pick up a Zelos for a lot less money. Lundis bleus seem like really quality watches too, with true grand feu enamel that is only rivaled by anOrdain at the price point. I just don't think the watches have that special something that the sartory and ophion has, so this would be last on my list. It's all up to personal taste though, I don't think you can go wrong with any of those watches. They are all really high up there in the independant/micro market, and really above most smaller brands if you ask me. |
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Thanks for this thread. I've been looking at Ophion and Sartory myself but hadn't heard of Lundis Bleus. Their watches look amazing.
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I'll be sure to post pictures and opinions on the Ophion once I get it! Should be in about a week or so.
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I finally got the Ophion yesterday, and I am really loving it. It's definitely worth the price, and it has so much attention to detail. It seems like everything has been thought of, and I can't find any elements that aren't completely exceptional.
... That is except for the buckle on the strap. It's a very very standard tang buckle without even branding on. A bit of a shame to spare money on such a detail at this price point, even if it is a minor thing. I'm being told the founder is working on a proper buckle, so hopefully that will be available (and standard) soon. I'm more of a lurker on this forum, so I can't figure out how to share pictures. I've made a mini review of the watch on an appropriately titled thread on the watchuseek forum, with plenty of pictures. |
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Anyone made the jump to the sartory billard? Each time I see that lovely blued titanium dial, I'm so tempted to get it. It looks very good, and I like how all of the dial components are hand made/finished.
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Based purely on aesthetics, the Sartory by a mile.
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I haven't been able to buy anything yet as I am still stuck on an island.
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Sartory Billard is coming out with a tantalum case, which is pretty cool and rare to see.
There aren't any pictures of the finished case yet, but this is the case outline rough cut. |
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My vote goes to the Ophion. Best looking movement with a case from Kari's factory.
The SB04 reminds me a little bit of the Ming 17 series, but not as well executed. |
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