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Old 10 December 2017, 02:20 AM   #31
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Some collectors like to have the last of a produced model, especially if it is a much sought after one, i.e. M serial for a 16710 which get important premium.

So for the sub 16610, it is the random serial, I don't think it'll have a premium soon, but you never know, sometimes it just happens that a standard watch few years back becomes subject to a hype, the internet helping of course.

IMO the only thing that would explain a higher price for a Sub random would be that it is newer.
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Similarly, my random serial is M and 7 arabic numbers unlike M serial which has 6 arabic numbers.
Oh wow! Did not know the significance of the M serial until now. Thanks!

Checked my Kermit, and it is an M serial as it turns out. M followed by 6 arabic numbers.
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Old 22 December 2017, 02:29 AM   #32
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Similarly, my random serial is with M and 7 arabic numbers unlike M serial which has 6 arabic numbers.

As you can see, the first letter of random serials is located between 26 and 27 minute markers unlike M serial.


Oh , this is new to me , which year did you buy your LV?
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Old 22 December 2017, 03:02 AM   #33
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Similarly, my random serial is with M and 7 arabic numbers unlike M serial which has 6 arabic numbers.

As you can see, the first letter of random serials is located between 26 and 27 minute markers unlike M serial.
Hi is your serial an M followed by 7 numbers...eg.M0000000?
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Old 22 December 2017, 03:36 AM   #34
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is a random serial number and what significance or value does it have?
ROLEX started using Random Serial numbers in 2011
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Old 22 December 2017, 06:01 AM   #35
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I remember how important the "year" seemed to be to people when the serial numbers started with a letter. I had a 16520 circa 2000 that was the last for that model and a few 116520's were A's. My first 116520 was either P or K, whichever came after A.
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Old 23 December 2017, 12:30 AM   #36
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16610LV random serial

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Oh , this is new to me , which year did you buy your LV?
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Hi is your serial an M followed by 7 numbers...eg.M0000000?

Yes, M is followed by "7" Arabic numbers instead of "6".
e.g. M1234567

This can easily lead to confusion between M and Random serial.
That's why its previous owner was mistaken.
I explained to him that it's a random serial number because of the following reasons.


1. The serial number consists of 8 digits.
Previously, it consisted of 7 digits (1 letter + 6 Arabic numbers).


2. On the rehaut, the first letter is engraved between 26 and 27 minute markers.
Previously, it was aligned with a 27 minute marker.

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ROLEX 16610LV Random Serial Number
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ROLEX 16610LV M Serial Number


3. Its clasp code is "RS" which means that it was manufactured in 2010.
My other random 16610lv also has the same clasp code.

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Old 23 December 2017, 12:32 AM   #37
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ROLEX started using Random Serial numbers in 2011
No, It's in 2010

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I remember how important the "year" seemed to be to people when the serial numbers started with a letter. I had a 16520 circa 2000 that was the last for that model and a few 116520's were A's. My first 116520 was either P or K, whichever came after A.

Generally, we cannot guess the year of production of a ROLEX watch with a random serial number.

But exceptionally, we can estimate it if a watch is a discontinued model in 2010.

For example, 16610, 16610LV, and 114270 were discontinued in 2010.

Rarely, some of them have a random serial number and they were manufactured in 2010.

That's why random 16610LVs are so special.
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ROLEX started using Random Serial numbers in 2011
No, It's in 2010


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I remember how important the "year" seemed to be to people when the serial numbers started with a letter. I had a 16520 circa 2000 that was the last for that model and a few 116520's were A's. My first 116520 was either P or K, whichever came after A.
Generally, we cannot guess the year of production of a ROLEX watch with a random serial number.

But exceptionally, we can estimate it if a watch is a discontinued model in 2010.

For example, 16610, 16610LV, and 114270 were discontinued in 2010.

Rarely, some of them have a random serial number and they were manufactured in 2010.

That's why random 16610LVs are so special.
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Old 23 December 2017, 05:24 AM   #39
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Old 23 December 2017, 06:42 AM   #40
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Old 23 December 2017, 10:44 AM   #41
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Yes, M is followed by "7" Arabic numbers instead of "6".

e.g. M1234567



This can easily lead to confusion between M and Random serial.

That's why its previous owner was mistaken.

I explained to him that it's a random serial number because of the following reasons.





1. The serial number consists of 8 digits.

Previously, it consisted of 7 digits (1 letter + 6 Arabic numbers).





2. On the rehaut, the first letter is engraved between 26 and 27 minute markers.

Previously, it was aligned with a 27 minute marker.



Attachment 913980

ROLEX 16610LV Random Serial Number

Attachment 913981

ROLEX 16610LV M Serial Number





3. Its clasp code is "RS" which means that it was manufactured in 2010.

My other random 16610lv also has the same clasp code.



Attachment 913982

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Very informative , and I found out that the Cyclopes is also coated with AR when I compare it with others
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Old 23 December 2017, 07:01 PM   #42
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Old 24 December 2017, 07:20 PM   #43
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2003 Y Serial costs a premium. 2004 F Series Flat 4 also, but less. All others only based on condition and maybe engraved rehaut. Thats what I learned in the past months while reading into the sbject and acquiring a NOS (V Serial, the last non random. Nothing special apart from being a 5 digit LV, of course ��).
Historically the random series LV:s have been fetching a nice premium. A couple of years earlier they were also premium over F and Y-series.
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