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23 December 2017, 07:57 PM | #1 |
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Possible trade - thoughts please
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OK I've been thinking about this possible trade for quite some time now. I want to upgrade to a 116618LB and was thinking about trading both my 116613LB and 116713LN for it. Few questions 1) Would it be possible for a straight trade for these 2 for the 116618LB? The LB I see is listed for around $23-$24k NIB or Mint. Pretty sure if I was serious buyer $22k would do the trick. They are both in very good condition and minimal marks which a light polish would easily make them look new. GTM2c is dated August 2015. Bluesy dated Sept 2016. 2) If not a direct swap how much is a fair amount to add on top of those 2? A few grand? I'm hoping a direct swap would be possible. 116613LB & 116713LN SWAP FOR |
23 December 2017, 08:27 PM | #2 |
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Full gold is beautiful but for me it is hard to wear in all situations so I wouldn't do the trade. The bluesy you have has the exact same dial and bezel without being too loud. However, if that 116618lb won't be your only piece, I'd say go for it. You can always sell it easily down the line.
For how much to top up, I would say 3k max depending on the dealer. Sent from my A1601 using Tapatalk |
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An even trade, you can always dream.
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Your two beautiful pieces + cash to trade for one, I would NOT do it.
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Well, I'm not a fan of two tone. I can't comment on the financial side as to whether it's a good deal or not but I would make the trade if you're happy with the numbers.
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23 December 2017, 10:05 PM | #7 |
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Hmmm many ppl advisng me not to do it. LOL
Honestly thats why it has taken me so long to decide. The 13LB has the exact same dial and bezel as the 18LB so effectively I'm trading another watch + money to switch out the case to full gold only. So it seems a straight swap may not be possible. I think the maximum I could do if I was going to do it would be these 2 + $3k cash anymore and it wouldnt make any sense I think. Tough choice. |
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First of all you won't get a 116618LB for 22K. Second, if trading those 2 you will need to add some cash. Contact some of the established sellers here and find a deal that is acceptable.
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I wouldn’t do it, I have been down that road before and did.
All that is going to happen is you will be immediately planning for another piece to buy for when you can’t wear your PM Sub. If you had more pieces than pictured, then that may be a different story. |
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So as you can see I love PM pieces. But yes you are right. These TT pieces I wear moreso in environments where my full gold pieces are not appropriate. If I flipped both of these I wouldn't have any SS models to pick from. Hmmmm.........first world problems hey... |
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It is a tough one. For me the 116613 lb is a more stunning watch than the full gold model. I chose to go with a day date for my full PM. Seeing you own a few other PM pieces I would keep the bluesy, still stunning with that beautiful dial but rugged enough for more robust activities or in situations where you don’t want full PM. If you really crave a full gold sub you could also trade one of your other PM pieces for a full gold black dial 116618ln and keep the bluesy. Now we’re talkin!
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I cant flip the DD40 or the SkyD. I love them both too much. I dont wear the GMT2c as much to be completely honest - most days its the 116613LB or the DD40. Maybe I will do this trade and get myself a BLNR or HULK for SS watch? |
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I would do the trade in a heartbeat.
I recently purchased the 13LB but only because I can't quite afford the 18LB at this time. Between the DD40 and the 18LB it's my ultimate goal to one day own a full PM Rolex watch. The DD40 is awesome but the 18LB is even more awsomererer... Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
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I think on the trade you are considering, you are 2-4K below where an established TS will be on a trade for the 116618LB. If it means that much to you go for it. I would decide between the DD40 and the Sky-Dweller and trade that watch toward a 116618LN. Keep the 116613LB, same dial and bezel as the 116618LB, and add the GMT to the trade. Pick up your 116618LN and a Hulk, BLNR, SD43 or other desirable watch. This would leave you with a RG model, a YG model, a TT Submariner with the blue and a new SS watch. A nice collection that touches a lot of bases. The Sky-Dweller would be the watch I moved, and I did when I owned the WG and YG. Good luck and keep us posted.
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Probably cost you 6k to do that swap. Then another 6k for an explorer 1 to beat on
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$6k on top of those 2 watches? LOL - I would be getting screwed bigtime I would think with that. If that was indeed the case I wouldnt do it for sure.
I'll probably just flip the GMT then and just save for a Patek 5980. No point losing so much money on a flip. Thanks gents for all the suggestions. As said above the DD40 and the RG SkyD is off the table. I love them too much. I guess I'll wait to see how much money I make on Cryptocurrencies in 2018 before I decide. Then a $6k difference is not much. :) |
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I honestly don't see the sense in flipping those 2 for a full gold sub. You have to ask yourself what is the real reason - is it to be more flashy / have a great f#@* off piece (as Archieluxury would say), achievement, etc.
I think going for something different that others don't have, something with a complication or other higher end horology brand than Rolex. I would second Patek, possibly AP if you don't have one already or a Piaget Polo 45 which is my favourite watch for all situations |
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Nah in all honestly I just like the look of all gold piece with the blue face/dial. The 116613LB was actually one of my first loves but the 116618LB was my must have from day one. Before I make any rash decisions I'll think about it more. I was hoping to do this trade on my next visit to the states. I'm buying some real estate over there even though I'm from Australia so was going to take both watches and do the trade. :) |
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Of course I say do it.
Getting a BLNR or LVc with it is a great idea, I did the same with the LVc. |
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Right back at you, mate, with your pics! It's a cracking watch and one PM is better than 2 TTs imho. Price here has moved up a few grand on this YG Subc in the last few months so you might need to add more cash, but you should also get more for your TTs.
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You are not going to change the real world look that much from your Bluesy. That said, I understand the lust of a solid gold Sub and you already know the look the blue sunburst dial gives you. My advise is if you really love the sunburst dial a lot more than your GMT, then doing a 2 for 1 + cash trade isn’t a crazy idea. You are somewhat educated in what to expect with the blue sunburst and how it fits into your style and make sure you are o.k with minor wear marks the 18k Sub will easily pick up in every day wear. That is a ocd question you have to answer. Everyone says it won’t bother them at first but make sure you are being totally honest cause that first good ding in solid 18k from everyday wear is gonna hurt.
Be warned that you will be adding a considerable amount of cash plus your two watches to make this happen. The trade in value of TT watches are not good. I just went through this.
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Alot of two tone owners take thst plunge ........and never look back but its gonna cost u 5-7k at least
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Great move
Get a fair deal and go for it.
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