Can you have RSC switch out a smooth bezel for a fluted on a DJ41?

[MannySDG]

Is it against Rolex rules to have parts replaced with other parts available for that watch? I have seen people mention that they changed dials. How about bracelets, can you have them switch an Oyster for a Jubilee?

Just curious.... I have a DJ41, white stick dial with smooth bezel and oyster bracelet. This was the actual configuration I wanted at the time and I still love it, but the fluted bezel/jubilee look is growing on me. Just wanted to see if that's an option in the future.

Thanks!

[502 to Right]

I don't know for certain for a DJ41, but I have the 126200 36mm DJ and asked my AD watchmaker if I could swap the smooth bezel for a fluted bezel. He said no and showed me the Rolex schematic drawings that showed a different gasket for the smooth bezel DJ's that would not allow for a fluted bezel. I would assume the same thing would apply to the DJ41.

That said, I also think they would refuse because changing the bezel would alter the model number nomenclature that applies for the serial number of the specific watch.

[MannySDG]

Yeah I believe you're right, just wanted to be sure and ask someone other than an AD.

[peterpl]

They wont do that because the model number will change.

Its not the same as switching out the dial.

[MannySDG]

Originally Posted by peterpl

They wont do that because the model number will change.

Its not the same as switching out the dial.

So switching the dial is an option at the cost of having to surrender the dial it came with?

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by MannySDG

So switching the dial is an option at the cost of having to surrender the dial it came with?

Yes because that doesnt change the model number of the watch. As long as the dial comes as a factory configuration option RSC usually will do it as long as you also service the movement at the same time.

I have done this 3 times in the past. They will keep your old dial.

[MannySDG]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Yes because that doesnt change the model number of the watch. As long as the dial comes as a factory configuration option RSC usually will do it as long as you also service the movement at the same time.

I have done this 3 times in the past. They will keep your old dial.

Oh, you need to do a service too...well...lets see what dial I will like better in 9 years...haha.

Thank you kindly for the info!

[jtorrebl]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Yes because that doesnt change the model number of the watch. As long as the dial comes as a factory configuration option RSC usually will do it as long as you also service the movement at the same time.

I have done this 3 times in the past. They will keep your old dial.

Would RSC swap out a black dial ceramic Daytona for the white dial is asked?

[RJRJRJ]

Originally Posted by jtorrebl

Would RSC swap out a black dial ceramic Daytona for the white dial is asked?

Nope. The color is indicated on the warranty card. Also, just out of curiosity, I asked once while on the phone with RSC about something else.

[HogwldFLTR]

Swaps can be done if you can source an alternate and find a well enough qualified repair person!!!

[Swiss Mad!]

Putting the dial colour on the warranty card seems to be a US thing.

In the UK & Europe (I think) this doesn’t appear to happen.

Image below taken from Chrono24 of a UK supplied watch for sale.

If the dial colour isn’t referenced & the model number is the same, would a UK service centre swap a black for white dial or vice versa?




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[Soultime]

I also think you can purchase a new bracelet for the DJ41 from an AD.

So you can have one of each.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Swaps can be done if you can source an alternate and find a well enough qualified repair person!!!

I think you might’ve done this back in the day on your DJ2?

[HansSolo]

In addition to the reference number change, they won't let you upgrade to the nicer options, but you can always downgrade. So going from a dome bezel to fluted or diamonds would be a no-no, but if you had a diamond bezel or fluted and thought it was too flashy at some point, they would downgrade it. As for bracelet options, whatever it was manufactured with are your options, so it shouldn't be a problem to pick up a Jubilee.

[md3113]

Just went through this with a DJ41 - you can swap the bracelet or dial. For the dial, has to be an available option for that serial number. They no longer require a full service, but it’s at their discretion if the watch needs a service or not.

If you handle everything through your AD you can keep both bracelets. If you deal directly with RSC they will keep the original bracelet.

[mmmmp]

Originally Posted by Soultime

I also think you can purchase a new bracelet for the DJ41 from an AD.

So you can have one of each.

If a watch was *originally* available with a Jubilee bracelet, yes the AD could order / install the bracelet. If not, say, a Milgauss, you'd need to buy one independent of Rolex and have a watchmaker install it. (of course, this is an easy modification that anyone could do it themselves.)

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[GST15]

RSC switched a stretched out TT jubilee for a TT oyster on my vintage DJ. I believe as long as the option was available on your watch at the time, they will do it. Not sure about bezel.

[airchitect]

If it was an original option on your watch, yes they will. Only caveat being that the whole dial, bezel, bracelet combo must be correct to the model as a whole.


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[JodyHighroller]

You can get the jubliee no problem as it doesn’t change the reference number, but switching to the fluted bezel does so that’s a no go.

[zion_rasta]

I would just trade the watch for a flutted 41mm DJ.

Get what you really want.

[MannySDG]

Hm, I am tempted to ask if I can get a Jubilee bracelet, will have to ask my AD. Thanks for all the replies!

[JohnnyBer]

They will inspect your watch to determine if service is needed. I swapped the dial on my DJ36 within the first three months of ownership. No service required.

[MannySDG]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBer

They will inspect your watch to determine if service is needed. I swapped the dial on my DJ36 within the first three months of ownership. No service required.

I bought this one in May of 2020...I doubt they would require service, especially if I were to ask an AD.

Does anyone know how much a jubilee goes for?

[MannySDG]

I called two ADs and they both said the same thing, can't be done. Oh well... save me some money I suppose.

[JodyHighroller]

The bracelet is $1,550~, but I’m pretty sure that’s with the exchange of your oyster bracelet. The price without exchange is slightly higher.

I’d suggest to call another AD, one that a service center built in as they’ll likely be better informed. As with most things in life it can be done, but you just need to find the right person.

Worst case, just sell the existing and buy the one you’re after.

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by 502 to Right

I don't know for certain for a DJ41, but I have the 126200 36mm DJ and asked my AD watchmaker if I could swap the smooth bezel for a fluted bezel. He said no and showed me the Rolex schematic drawings that showed a different gasket for the smooth bezel DJ's that would not allow for a fluted bezel. I would assume the same thing would apply to the DJ41.

That said, I also think they would refuse because changing the bezel would alter the model number nomenclature that applies for the serial number of the specific watch.

What I knows about DJ with sapphire crystal so is there only a crystal gasket and that have nothing to do with the bezel. So I will
say you can change but Rolex don't do it for you. Just feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I think you might’ve done this back in the day on your DJ2?

Exactly; it turned out nicely!!

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Exactly; it turned out nicely!!

Ah, good ... it wasn't my imagination

I seem to remember you were quite pleased with the result

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[envuks]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

Putting the dial colour on the warranty card seems to be a US thing.

In the UK & Europe (I think) this doesn’t appear to happen.

Image below taken from Chrono24 of a UK supplied watch for sale.

If the dial colour isn’t referenced & the model number is the same, would a UK service centre swap a black for white dial or vice versa?




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Interesting, the card for my 116500 definitely says black. US based AD purchase

[JodyHighroller]

Originally Posted by envuks

Interesting, the card for my 116500 definitely says black. US based AD purchase

He’s right. It’s region based and some of my timepieces from different parts show the dial color and some don’t.