ncaa tourney thread

[Lawman77]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

2nd half anyways. You just knew that VA was looking ahead while playing a 16th seed at the time

Seriously? Every #1 seed has overlooked the #16 seed. Virginia is just the first to pay the price. Considering the circumstances, the underdog played a flawless entire game.

[TheVTCGuy]

That game was no suprise to me, I had UMBC beating VA in my bracket.


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Ok, so I’m a lier.

[Runnin' Rebel]

Originally Posted by Lawman77

Seriously? Every #1 seed has overlooked the #16 seed. Virginia is just the first to pay the price. Considering the circumstances, the underdog played a flawless entire game.

Ok. But you can't over look these games. 68 of the best teams in the country, in theory and if your not careful this is what happens. This isn't conference games, 16th seed is playing for their lives for National Championship- ACC vs AEC

and by 20 points good for them. Love an underdog and they were getting 20 points

[GB-man]

Locals are excited the ub bulls pulled an upset. Tough to compete with the big money schools in a small market. As an alumn I’m pleased

[tbonesteak]

Tough to root against a team named Retrievers... Still scratching my head how Virginia rolled through the ACC.

[AzPaul]

As an Arizona man, just want to pass along a big thank you to the Virginia Cavaliers.
We've enjoyed the spotlight enough this season.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by tbonesteak

Tough to root against a team named Retrievers... Still scratching my head how Virginia rolled through the ACC.

didnt come to play and umbc shot lights out. lyles killed uva.

remember wheb george mason killed uconn loaded with nba talent. that was a bigger upset imo.

[mtrunner]

Originally Posted by Etschell

didnt come to play and umbc shot lights out. lyles killed uva.

remember wheb george mason killed uconn loaded with nba talent. that was a bigger upset imo.

Lyles was HOT! Well there goes my bracket but this is what makes March Madness so great!

[catsby90]

Originally Posted by etschell

who you got?

I got uva taking it all.

But go canes!!

cats.

[Kimber007]

Originally Posted by Etschell

didnt come to play and umbc shot lights out. lyles killed uva.

remember wheb george mason killed uconn loaded with nba talent. that was a bigger upset imo.

Sorry, but no where close to as big of an upset. Connecticut was ranked 4th (KP) and George Mason 22nd. https://kenpom.com/index.php?y=2006

That game went to OT where UConn missed a 3 to win the game.

Here we have UVA who is not just a 1 seed but the overall 1 seed not getting upset by a buzzer beater but getting destroyed by 20 points to UMBC who is ranked 168th!!!! https://kenpom.com/index.php

UMBC was 3 games back in their own conference. They squeaked out a single possession win in their conference tournament just to make it in.

In 1980 USA beat Russia in hockey by 1 goal. Imagine if they would have won that game by 6 or 7 goals. That's how big of an upset this was.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by Kimber007

Sorry, but no where close to as big of an upset. Connecticut was ranked 4th (KP) and George Mason 22nd. https://kenpom.com/index.php?y=2006

That game went to OT where UConn missed a 3 to win the game.

Here we have UVA who is not just a 1 seed but the overall 1 seed not getting upset by a buzzer beater but getting destroyed by 20 points to UMBC who is ranked 168th!!!! https://kenpom.com/index.php

UMBC was 3 games back in their own conference. They squeaked out a single possession win in their conference tournament just to make it in.

In 1980 USA beat Russia in hockey by 1 goal. Imagine if they would have won that game by 6 or 7 goals. That's how big of an upset this was.

sure sure. name me 1 nba player on virginia.

[catsby90]

Originally Posted by Kimber007

Here we have UVA who is not just a 1 seed but the overall 1 seed not getting upset by a buzzer beater but getting destroyed by 20 points to UMBC who is ranked 168th!!!!

Originally Posted by Etschell

sure sure. name me 1 nba player on virginia.

NBA players help but certainly are not determinative of a team's strength. UVA was no. 1 overall and lost to a 16 seed for the first time in history. This could not have been a bigger upset. If they were a different 1 seed, the argument would be that the upset could have been bigger if they were the no. 1 overall. In this case, they were. Biggest upset of all time.

Goes to show that style of play matters. The tournament always shows that cinderella teams can get white hot and knock off anybody. The problem with UVA is that they lack the offense to compete if their opponent gets hot. That's what happened.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by catsby90

NBA players help but certainly are not determinative of a team's strength. UVA was no. 1 overall and lost to a 16 seed for the first time in history. This could not have been a bigger upset. If they were a different 1 seed, the argument would be that the upset could have been bigger if they were the no. 1 overall. In this case, they were. Biggest upset of all time.

Goes to show that style of play matters. The tournament always shows that cinderella teams can get white hot and knock off anybody. The problem with UVA is that they lack the offense to compete if their opponent gets hot. That's what happened.

yes and uva has done this many times. just not as the highest seed.

[AzHadEnuf]

Originally Posted by azpaul

as an arizona man, just want to pass along a big thank you to the virginia cavaliers.
We've enjoyed the spotlight enough this season.

x2

[Kimber007]

Originally Posted by Etschell

sure sure. name me 1 nba player on virginia.

You still don't seem sold. Let's take a look at this:

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-.../team/virginia

UVA was favored by 20.5 points over UMBC. That's the 2nd largest point spread all season for the Cavilers. The highest was a 26.5 point spread over Austin Peay State. UVA won that game by 44 points.

What do you think Vegas would have paid out more? A bet on George Mason (again ranked 22nd by Ken Pom) beating UConn (4th) by 2 points or a bet on UMBC (168th) beating UVA (2nd) by 20 points?

If you don't like Ken Pom use any rankings you like. According to Sagarin UConn was ranked 3rd and George Mason 15th vs UVA 8th and UMBC 177th.
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaa...rin/2006/team/
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaa...rin/2018/team/

The difference is insane not to mention 2 points vs 20 points

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by Kimber007

You still don't seem sold. Let's take a look at this:

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-.../team/virginia

UVA was favored by 20.5 points over UMBC. That's the 2nd largest point spread all season for the Cavilers. The highest was a 26.5 point spread over Austin Peay State. UVA won that game by 44 points.

What do you think Vegas would have paid out more? A bet on George Mason (again ranked 22nd by Ken Pom) beating UConn (4th) by 2 points or a bet on UMBC (168th) beating UVA (2nd) by 20 points?

If you don't like Ken Pom use any rankings you like. According to Sagarin UConn was ranked 3rd and George Mason 15th vs UVA 8th and UMBC 177th.
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaa...rin/2006/team/
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaa...rin/2018/team/

The difference is insane not to mention 2 points vs 20 points

no im sold.

[MickCollins1916]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Locals are excited the ub bulls pulled an upset. Tough to compete with the big money schools in a small market. As an alumn I’m pleased

Growing up in Buffalo, seemed like most people rooted for Syracuse - which I never understood - but UB didn’t have much of a program back then. I can’t remember for certain, but maybe they weren’t even D1.

At any rate, with St. Bonaventure out, I’d be thrilled to see UB make a run.

[THC]

Luckily, so far, I have Xavier winning it all.. only filled in one bracket... do or die, lol

[Kimber007]

Originally Posted by Etschell

no im sold.

PS - keep up the great work with the interviews, always a great read

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by MickCollins1916

Growing up in Buffalo, seemed like most people rooted for Syracuse - which I never understood - but UB didn’t have much of a program back then. I can’t remember for certain, but maybe they weren’t even D1.

At any rate, with St. Bonaventure out, I’d be thrilled to see UB make a run.

Yeah there are more 'cuse fans here than bulls fans that is for sure. Not sure how long they have been D1 but they have only made the tourny 3 times and that is all since 2015 so it is a somewhat fledgling program.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by Kimber007

PS - keep up the great work with the interviews, always a great read

[TC94]

Originally Posted by TC94

I agree with you in both, but

Let’s Goooo, Mountaineers.

Originally Posted by MickCollins1916

I’m all kinds of wrong these days. Not only did I have my Bonnies moving on to the round of 32, my hometown UB Bulls losing to Arizona, I had UVA going all the way...and my lovely wife, who doesn’t care about sports one bit (but is a UMBC alum) picked the Retrievers to beat UVA...which they just did. I am floored! March madness is so much fun.

Watching that game is what makes the tourney great if you didn’t have a dog in the fight.

OTOH, Nova looked unbeatable yesterday, and my Mountaineers will face them should we win tomorrow. Our D weakness is rotating to cover the corner 3’s. Too much help defense inside could leave Nova’s shooters wide open all night.

But we have to get there first.

[catsby90]

CATS to Atlanta.

[Etschell]

loyola incredible

[MickCollins1916]

Originally Posted by Etschell

loyola incredible

Just ridiculous. I love this tournament!

[77T]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

MSU Spartans

It was a great game - but not for Spartans fans. Now the best hope is Syracuse runs the boards and wins the whole thing.


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[Kimber007]

Originally Posted by Etschell

loyola incredible

Originally Posted by MickCollins1916

Just ridiculous. I love this tournament!

Chances of making it to the Elite 8 just went up drastically now that Cincy lost. Kentucky really benefiting from all this madness.

[Teetime71]

My Alma Mater


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[FSUGeoff]

Originally Posted by THC

Luckily, so far, I have Xavier winning it all.. only filled in one bracket... do or die, lol

Sorry, not sorry...Go Noles

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by 77T

It was a great game - but not for Spartans fans. Now the best hope is Syracuse runs the boards and wins the whole thing.


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I really doubt it, both teams looked pretty bad, all for the Orange because they made the win, but they sure didn’t look like a final four team. Who knows this year, but I think some of the other teams that are dominating are looking good. I hate to say this, but Purdue is looking good.