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View Poll Results: Would you flip 2 ROO's for a Datograph
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Old 24 August 2017, 01:06 AM   #31
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I'm a flipper so I voted yes.

Here's the rub. Buying a datograph brand new is truly a luxury purchase. I don't have the stomach or wallet to shovel 30k into the trash so I would only consider buying like new preowned examples.

As such, finding a great example at a good price is almost like looking for a nice vintage Rolex. You'll have to take your time. Keep an eye on what comes on the market and make an offer you are comfortable with :

My other problem is the 5170G is sort of a grail of mine and I would be trigger shy as those are trading at great prices, imho, these days. Production numbers be damned!
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Old 24 August 2017, 01:17 AM   #32
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I've been thinking about this all day and if I'm honest I wouldn't do the move for the Dato which is your grail or one of my grails around that price!

Reason is you have a wonderful and diverse collection not only brands but also size, strap and material variations so to me it's a pretty rounded collection.

However I'm not a fan of RG and as you have two ROO's at the moment so I'd be inclined to move the RG ROO for something similar to the Dato styling maybe another ALS for more brand diversity or another PP/AP.

If you are set on the Dato then I would flip the RG ROO and add funds or add the RO or 5164a to the flip.

Well that's my 2p worth
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Old 24 August 2017, 01:34 AM   #33
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Something that's always bugged me about the Dato and other Lange big date watches, the first nine days of the month only one number shows on the date and next to it you have a big white space which is very distracting and your eye will go directly to it.
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Old 24 August 2017, 01:41 AM   #34
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Something that's always bugged me about the Dato and other Lange big date watches, the first nine days of the month only one number shows on the date and next to it you have a big white space which is very distracting and your eye will go directly to it.
I tend to agree... I don't get why they don't insert a "0" during those days instead of a blank space.


My vote is to keep the 2 watches. The RG is one of my favourites so that one alone I would rather keep regardless of the price. (But that's my personal taste).

Good luck my friend!
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Old 24 August 2017, 01:51 AM   #35
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I've been thinking about this all day and if I'm honest I wouldn't do the move for the Dato which is your grail or one of my grails around that price!

Reason is you have a wonderful and diverse collection not only brands but also size, strap and material variations so to me it's a pretty rounded collection.

However I'm not a fan of RG and as you have two ROO's at the moment so I'd be inclined to move the RG ROO for something similar to the Dato styling maybe another ALS for more brand diversity or another PP/AP.

If you are set on the Dato then I would flip the RG ROO and add funds or add the RO or 5164a to the flip.

Well that's my 2p worth
Yeah, my collection is right where i want it at this point. In a perfect world i would love to just add the dato.

I have really bonded with the 5164 though and at this point its probably my favorite watch. I think the best solution is to move the RG at some point in the future if and when i can find a dato at a good price and add the extra cash and keep the Ti 44. I really would miss something i think being without a ROO. In truth if it was not for the Dato i would never consider moving either of them as its not like i don't really like both of them a lot already.
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Old 24 August 2017, 01:52 AM   #36
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Something that's always bugged me about the Dato and other Lange big date watches, the first nine days of the month only one number shows on the date and next to it you have a big white space which is very distracting and your eye will go directly to it.
that is my only issue with what is otherwise a perfect watch also. I agree a "0" would look better in that window.
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Old 24 August 2017, 02:05 AM   #37
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Yeah, my collection is right where i want it at this point. In a perfect world i would love to just add the dato.

I have really bonded with the 5164 though and at this point its probably my favorite watch. I think the best solution is to move the RG at some point in the future if and when i can find a dato at a good price and add the extra cash and keep the Ti 44. I really would miss something i think being without a ROO. In truth if it was not for the Dato i would never consider moving either of them as its not like i don't really like both of them a lot already.
Exactly my thoughts just move the RG when the right time arises everything else is perfect.

The 5164 was 'if you most' flip as I just felt losing the diversity of a ROO in the collection outweighed the 5164.
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Old 24 August 2017, 02:43 AM   #38
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I handled a RG Datograph few months ago at a big AD chain in London. A very stunning watch. Without any haggling I was offered a 20% discount and I think a discount of 25% is achievable with ALS. Since you can get VAT back you may be able to get a good deal on a Datograph and loss would be minimum if you decide to move it. However I would not trade a RG44 and Ti 44 towards a Datograph.
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Old 24 August 2017, 02:52 AM   #39
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I handled a RG Datograph few months ago at a big AD chain in London. A very stunning watch. Without any haggling I was offered a 20% discount and I think a discount of 25% is achievable with ALS. Since you can get VAT back you may be able to get a good deal on a Datograph and loss would be minimum if you decide to move it. However I would not trade a RG44 and Ti 44 towards a Datograph.
yeah, I'm pretty sure i know the AD as my offer was fairly similar and i didn't even get into pricing, they just offered. Not my usual AD unfortunately but I'm sure i could get a discount with them as well. Yeah with the VAT refund on top when i took it to the states it may be worth it as far as retaining the value of what i paid.
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Old 24 August 2017, 04:28 AM   #40
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I vote for getting the Datograph since this is your grail. Only issue is you have to buy right, as others have stated. Selling on the secondary market is pretty hard for most Langes.

I have the 39mm version and I find it pretty versatile. I wear it with everything except shorts/t shirts. Good luck!
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Old 24 August 2017, 04:37 AM   #41
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Old 24 August 2017, 04:40 AM   #42
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I wouldn't as I love the AP 44. Wish it would fit my wrist size
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Old 24 August 2017, 04:53 AM   #43
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I'd sell one of the ROOs, probably the RG as you got the wrong version . I prefer the dial and numerals of the 39mm Dato, the 42 just doesn't do it for me so not a switch I would make.
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Old 24 August 2017, 05:32 AM   #44
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I don't even like the ROO (not to my taste) but I wouldn't trade 2 of them for a Dato. I'd trade one plus cash to get a Dato.
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Old 24 August 2017, 08:04 AM   #45
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i would get rid of the rg 44 and the 15400 towards the dato its a grail for me
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Old 24 August 2017, 08:15 AM   #46
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Old 24 August 2017, 09:06 AM   #47
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Flip 2 ROO 44's for a Datograph?

In a heartbeat.

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Old 24 August 2017, 09:08 AM   #48
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absolutely not.... but I love APs.. only thing I love from Lange is their movement and you can't wear it to see it...lol
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Old 24 August 2017, 09:59 AM   #50
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yeah, i do know resale is a concern. Thats my main hesitation with ALS in general. As much as we all like to think we won't sell our watches, most end up getting moved on at some point.
Oh I know what you mean, like the guy who just got the 2 coolest ROO's and soon after wants to trade them for a dato...
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Old 24 August 2017, 10:24 AM   #51
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oh i know what you mean, like the guy who just got the 2 coolest roo's and soon after wants to trade them for a dato...
lololololololol
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Old 24 August 2017, 10:24 AM   #52
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Tyler, would you mind sharing how your overall collection stands at the moment, so that this can be considered with that context?
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Old 24 August 2017, 10:40 AM   #53
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Depend on the price of the Datograph. Even if it's good, I will not flip both for it. Probably the RG44 and add cash to buy Datograph.
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I'd sell one of the 44s and the 15400 and then get the new 1815 Chrono black dial. The same movement as the Dato, WG case, amazing dial (I actually prefer it to the Dato), and you save what, $30k?

The 1815 Chrono black dial is damn close to perfection.

Wow this looks way better than the other one. I was kinda wondering why everyone was bothering to entertain this thought. But this one, I could maybe understanding trading one (the Ti) for it.
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I'm leaning toward keeping one offshore, probably the Ti as its more of a daily piece and adding cash. Ill have to wait a bit to pull that off though. I would be tough to be without an offshore.
I think that's a good option. I want a Dato someday as I think it's a superb piece and actually a grail for me too. I wouldn't sell both my 44's for it though. If the deal was right, I could see myself flipping one of the 44's and add cash to pick up a Dato. One of these days.....

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I think that's a good option. I want a Dato someday as I think it's a superb piece and actually a grail for me too. I wouldn't sell both my 44's for it though. If the deal was right, I could see myself flipping one of the 44's and add cash to pick up a Dato. One of these days.....

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its the most sensible option for sure. I think my impatience was getting the best of me. I really do love both of my 44's... even the orange one

The dato on the other hand is amazing in a different way.
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Old 24 August 2017, 03:18 PM   #57
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I'd sell one of the 44s and the 15400 and then get the new 1815 Chrono black dial. The same movement as the Dato, WG case, amazing dial (I actually prefer it to the Dato), and you save what, $30k?

The 1815 Chrono black dial is damn close to perfection.

that is tempting especially with the newly released black dial version. The price point is much more attractive too. My only worry with that one is regretting not waiting for the dato which would be the one i really want and then having to flip the 1815 later.

I do like the larger size of the dato as well.

That new 1815 chronograph though is super nice and in a world where the dato didn't exist that would be my favorite ALS.
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Old 24 August 2017, 03:35 PM   #58
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Oh I know what you mean, like the guy who just got the 2 coolest ROO's and soon after wants to trade them for a dato...

when you put it that way, it does sound bad. Im going to sit tight, no impulse decisions for the moment.
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That depends on what price you are getting the Dato for but I'd still keep 1 ROO 44 in the collection
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