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Old 24 March 2019, 08:30 AM   #61
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Thank you for sharing this technical post!

I cant imagine that pivot wheels are new to watch movements.

-Why was pivot wheel not lubricated in the first place?

-Arent generally all moving components that are in a drive train lubricated?
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Old 24 March 2019, 08:49 AM   #62
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Very spectacular pictures, It expresses details of the watch in brief.
Impressive!

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Old 24 March 2019, 09:16 AM   #63
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It might. I honestly can't tell if it will or not.

Don't worry about it, if some issue does arise then just have it fixed under warranty It is a new movement and they can always have a few issues in the beginning.
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Mine has been keeping perfect time for almost two years so hopefully it is OK. Anyway, I have never had an issue with a Rolex that they have not solved under warranty.
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Old 24 March 2019, 10:16 AM   #64
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Old 24 March 2019, 10:22 AM   #65
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That’s for the pictures and the info...
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Old 24 March 2019, 10:24 AM   #66
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Great work Bas !!
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Old 24 March 2019, 10:26 AM   #67
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Old 24 March 2019, 10:26 AM   #68
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Awesome photos and thanks or taking the time to answer everyone’s Q’s as I had the same questions as many when I read the original post.
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Old 24 March 2019, 11:04 AM   #69
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Thank you for these outstanding pictures and your expert insight.
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Old 24 March 2019, 11:05 AM   #70
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Very informative, thank-you.

It's certainly a great looking movement, great photos....
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Old 24 March 2019, 11:37 AM   #71
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I’m waiting for the first person to demand that Rolex give them a new watch because of this issue...
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Old 24 March 2019, 12:12 PM   #72
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These are some damn cool photos. Thx for sharing!!
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Old 24 March 2019, 12:44 PM   #73
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Wow absolutely amazing and beautiful photos!

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Old 24 March 2019, 12:58 PM   #74
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Bas - thanks for sharing this with the forum. This wouldn’t stop me from buying a Datejust 41.
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Old 24 March 2019, 01:03 PM   #75
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Thanks Bas! These are the types of threads I wish we had more of on TRF, learning a little bit more about these incredible mechanical marvels.
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Old 24 March 2019, 04:27 PM   #76
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Thank you for sharing this technical post!

I cant imagine that pivot wheels are new to watch movements.

-Why was pivot wheel not lubricated in the first place?

-Arent generally all moving components that are in a drive train lubricated?
The pivot was most likely not lubricated due to a production error. The seconds wheel was always quite prone to wear so I don't think this was intentional..

Yes in pretty much all mechanical watches the gear train is lubricated.
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Rolex uses rare elves to polish the platinum. They have a union deal and make like $90 per hour and get time and half on weekends.
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Old 24 March 2019, 04:37 PM   #77
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Old 24 March 2019, 04:41 PM   #78
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Thanks Bas! These are the types of threads I wish we had more of on TRF, learning a little bit more about these incredible mechanical marvels.
Well Bas is a pledge member and a Rolex technician.

Perhaps we need more of both to continue?

Thanks again Bas.
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Old 24 March 2019, 04:53 PM   #79
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Great! We can look forward to the 3235 Russian roulette.

Why don’t Rolex carry out some form of recall if it’s a known problem?

My DJ41 is a late 2018 model - I hope I’m all good.

I guess the whole warranty cover for this issue depends on if it’s presents itself within the first 5 years of ownership.

I guess that’s dependent on the amount of time you wear it within that time.

I got mine 6 months ago but have only really worn it for the first time properly, today.
There's been plenty of problems with movements over the years, and not just at Rolex. But now these issues are widespread news because we have forums like this and places like Instagram where watchmakers and enthusiasts alike discuss all things Rolex.

There's also been an issue with early versions (pre DJ41) that the date didn't jump consistently, so there's a slightly different date wheel. We have to check which one is in the movement and update it if the movement has the older version.

Once you start making thousands and thousands of movements and they are being used in the real world you can always come across something that might not have been discovered during development.

And still, the 31 series and 22 series use a rotor axle, it is not uncommon for those to wear to shreds well within warranty period. And the 31×× has been in use since 1989...

No need to worry, it is not a 'russian roulette'.
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Old 24 March 2019, 05:33 PM   #80
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Old 24 March 2019, 05:37 PM   #81
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Old 24 March 2019, 05:42 PM   #82
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Love these threads!

Is there a manual/book that explains exactly how a 31.. or 32.. movement works?
We have an online system with all kinds of technical information. But this is for Rolex trained watchmakers only unfortunately.

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Great post ! Thanks

Hmmmm ...so Rolex do make mistakes
Of course, but they just don't admit it
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Old 24 March 2019, 05:49 PM   #83
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Taking a look at the 3235

Thanks Bas for the great pics and explanation about the issue. I have a 126600 with caliber 3235 of early 2018.
I will monitor the timekeeping more closely now.
Great work you are doing!


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Old 24 March 2019, 05:59 PM   #84
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Why do you think Rolex did not finish the balance bridge on the 3235 in Perlage like they did on the 3135 movement?
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Old 24 March 2019, 06:05 PM   #85
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Why do you think Rolex did not finish the balance bridge on the 3235 in Perlage like they did on the 3135 movement?
No idea, just a different aesthetic design. I definitely like the new circular brushed look.
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Old 24 March 2019, 08:42 PM   #86
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Love seeing the innards of the movement in my DSSD. Thanks for sharing.


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Old 24 March 2019, 09:09 PM   #87
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Very nice, Bas. Thanks!
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Old 24 March 2019, 09:55 PM   #88
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Great thread. Thanks, Bas.
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Old 24 March 2019, 10:40 PM   #89
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Old 24 March 2019, 11:14 PM   #90
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Man talk about a jig saw puzzle. Thanks for the pics Bas.
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