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Old 23 July 2016, 08:56 PM   #1
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Help verifying rolex sub

Dear friends,

Recently was offered a hulk at a very competitive price without box or papers. Would like help in verifying the authenticity of the said watch. Attached are the pics.

Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Old 24 July 2016, 12:02 AM   #2
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I personally wouldn't trust pictures in which a guy keeps showing his bare foot, like he doesn't have enough respect for the watch he is selling to cause you to wonder how much clothing he is wearing while. To me it is disrespectful to you and the watch.
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Old 24 July 2016, 12:10 AM   #3
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Watch is fake
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Old 24 July 2016, 02:37 AM   #4
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Thanks. Maybe I'll pass on this. I think the photos were taken from his home hence the barefoot

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Old 24 July 2016, 03:13 AM   #5
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I personally wouldn't trust pictures in which a guy keeps showing his bare foot, like he doesn't have enough respect for the watch he is selling to cause you to wonder how much clothing he is wearing while. To me it is disrespectful to you and the watch.
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Old 24 July 2016, 03:26 AM   #6
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Watch looks authentic, but buy the seller. If the price is real low that is a red flag. Nobody sells this reference for cheap. Here is mine for comparison.
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Old 24 July 2016, 04:01 AM   #7
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Thanks man appreciate the reply

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Old 24 July 2016, 06:07 AM   #8
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1 for Fake and 1 for Genuine. Interesting

@sublover - yours looks a lot more genuine than OPs
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Old 24 July 2016, 06:50 AM   #9
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I personally wouldn't trust pictures in which a guy keeps showing his bare foot, like he doesn't have enough respect for the watch he is selling to cause you to wonder how much clothing he is wearing while. To me it is disrespectful to you and the watch.
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Old 24 July 2016, 07:57 AM   #10
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As they say, "buy the foot, not the watch." Why not just buy from a trusted, well-known seller on TRF?
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Old 24 July 2016, 08:02 AM   #11
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As they say, "buy the foot, not the watch." Why not just buy from a trusted, well-known seller on TRF?
I hope this thread doesnt morph into people taken pics of their watches with a bare foot. please no! don't even think of it.
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Old 24 July 2016, 08:03 AM   #12
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It's my opinion the watch is genuine. If it's a keeper don't stress the box and papers. If you think you will ever sell it, I would find a complete set.
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Old 24 July 2016, 08:03 AM   #13
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I hope this thread doesnt morph into people taken pics of their watches with a bare foot. please no! don't even think of it.


Great idea for a new thread! "Toe Cheese and Your Rolex"!
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Old 24 July 2016, 08:33 AM   #14
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How can you tell?
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Old 24 July 2016, 08:38 AM   #15
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Old 24 July 2016, 12:43 PM   #16
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As they say, "buy the foot, not the watch." Why not just buy from a trusted, well-known seller on TRF?
It's actually offered by someone I know, and it's about 1k cheaper than what is usually offered. And It's cash and carry so I'm a bit keen on getting it.

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Old 24 July 2016, 12:47 PM   #17
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It's actually offered by someone I know, and it's about 1k cheaper than what is usually offered. And It's cash and carry so I'm a bit keen on getting it.

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Old 24 July 2016, 01:54 PM   #18
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Watch is fake
That would be my opinion as well.

Dial print is off, SELs don't look right, plus some other issues.
Looks like it's had the crystal replaced to make it look more authentic, which is common (typical crystals on even the really good fakes are either too tall, have date mag issues, or have a very visible LEC).
Whoever did the job wasn't very skillful, as the cyclops is misaligned/crooked.

Also, it's funny how pics of these super-fakes always seem to have the hands obscuring the coronet on the dial (which is usually an easy-to-spot tell), lol...
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Old 25 July 2016, 07:47 AM   #19
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It's actually offered by someone I know, and it's about 1k cheaper than what is usually offered. And It's cash and carry so I'm a bit keen on getting it.

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If you know the person, do you trust them that the watch is real?
The series of pics he gave you are not very detailed, just showing bits and pieces. Have him take better pics. Outdoors in sunlight. Fake Hulks have flat green dials and there is no "sunburst effect" in natural bright light. Ask him where are the box, booklets and warranty card? Most folks who make a large purchase for an expensive watch keep these things and don't just trash them. They make the resale much easier and more attractive. Just my 2C.
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Old 25 July 2016, 07:55 AM   #20
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im not sure its a hulk ,,, looks more like a hunk to me ,,, hunk of junk ,

id not be buying that one

but ,,, buy the seller .
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Old 25 July 2016, 10:56 AM   #21
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Lot of iffy things with that thing. Run.
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Old 7 August 2016, 11:22 AM   #22
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An update: i managed to get a watch Smith to opn up the caseback and he said it's gen.

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Old 7 August 2016, 11:33 AM   #23
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An update: i actually send the watch to have the movement looked at. Here are some pictures.

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Old 7 August 2016, 04:54 PM   #24
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Had the chance to get it opened by a watchsmith. Thanks all for your inputs anyhow.

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