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Old 23 June 2018, 01:46 AM   #1
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Icon5 1680 Red Sub... MKII

Hi all, thinking to buy this 1680 Red.. got some photos. Besides those hands color look lighter. What do you think?

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Old 23 June 2018, 01:54 AM   #2
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I saw that watch on ebay a few weeks ago. There appears to be some dial damage and staining. I wouldn't buy it.
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Old 23 June 2018, 02:32 AM   #3
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I saw that watch on ebay a few weeks ago. There appears to be some dial damage and staining. I wouldn't buy it.
yes, near the one oclock mark. The guy said the rest are on the crystal. will see it this weekend.
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Old 23 June 2018, 04:17 AM   #4
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That top crown guard is smoked!
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Old 23 June 2018, 04:50 AM   #5
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that top crown guard is smoked!
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Old 23 June 2018, 04:53 AM   #6
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A few things I don't like about it that can be changed easily enough.

The case, not so easy. Unless the price is "outstanding" I'd keep looking. Mike Young can restore the case (he did a great job on mine) but the 'value' in these is in originality and completeness.

It is nice to see a 700 crown on it at least...
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Old 23 June 2018, 05:09 AM   #7
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it always comes down to price...

Many here on TRF demand close to perfection with vintage.

The market is dry for quality examples. When they come up, they command a hefty premium.

Many forget these are very old pieces and when some pop up in less than perfect condition; or as I call them, honest condition, they feel the watch should be a pass.

For me, I would proudly wear that 1680.
Just don't over pay.

I think this piece has a lot of character and no major damage that would turn me off completely. Dial scuffs and or stains here and there. But someone clearly wore and enjoyed that watch for a long time.

This will still hold its value, but I say again, don't over pay.

This could make a great daily wearer.

Also a point to add, we are looking at blown up pictures of a small timepiece. In reality, many of the flaws we are seeing under magnification, will be hard to see in real life.
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Old 23 June 2018, 06:01 AM   #8
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Nice to read such balanced advice for a change



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it always comes down to price...

Many here on TRF demand close to perfection with vintage.

The market is dry for quality examples. When they come up, they command a hefty premium.

Many forget these are very old pieces and when some pop up in less than perfect condition; or as I call them, honest condition, they feel the watch should be a pass.

For me, I would proudly wear that 1680.
Just don't over pay.

I think this piece has a lot of character and no major damage that would turn me off completely. Dial scuffs and or stains here and there. But someone clearly wore and enjoyed that watch for a long time.

This will still hold its value, but I say again, don't over pay.

This could make a great daily wearer.

Also a point to add, we are looking at blown up pictures of a small timepiece. In reality, many of the flaws we are seeing under magnification, will be hard to see in real life.
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Old 23 June 2018, 08:20 AM   #9
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it always comes down to price...

Many here on TRF demand close to perfection with vintage.

The market is dry for quality examples. When they come up, they command a hefty premium.

Many forget these are very old pieces and when some pop up in less than perfect condition; or as I call them, honest condition, they feel the watch should be a pass.

For me, I would proudly wear that 1680.
Just don't over pay.

I think this piece has a lot of character and no major damage that would turn me off completely. Dial scuffs and or stains here and there. But someone clearly wore and enjoyed that watch for a long time.

This will still hold its value, but I say again, don't over pay.

This could make a great daily wearer.

Also a point to add, we are looking at blown up pictures of a small timepiece. In reality, many of the flaws we are seeing under magnification, will be hard to see in real life.
I agree with this,Finding like NOS vintage just isn’t happening for us mere mortals.With that said,That CG is a no go for me.
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Old 23 June 2018, 01:32 PM   #10
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Thanks for your comments. for those who support can explore further, what price range would you consider is fair? I need your advice as haven't had experience in buying this kind of vintage watch. Thanks
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Old 23 June 2018, 01:47 PM   #11
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I agree with this,Finding like NOS vintage just isn’t happening for us mere mortals.With that said,That CG is a no go for me.
over polished?
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Old 23 June 2018, 02:46 PM   #12
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Thanks for your comments. for those who support can explore further, what price range would you consider is fair? I need your advice as haven't had experience in buying this kind of vintage watch. Thanks
For reference: https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/372316658...2047675.l10137
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Old 24 June 2018, 02:32 AM   #13
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+1....As a wearer and providing the price is decent enough, I would buy it.

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it always comes down to price...

Many here on TRF demand close to perfection with vintage.

The market is dry for quality examples. When they come up, they command a hefty premium.

Many forget these are very old pieces and when some pop up in less than perfect condition; or as I call them, honest condition, they feel the watch should be a pass.

For me, I would proudly wear that 1680.
Just don't over pay.

I think this piece has a lot of character and no major damage that would turn me off completely. Dial scuffs and or stains here and there. But someone clearly wore and enjoyed that watch for a long time.

This will still hold its value, but I say again, don't over pay.

This could make a great daily wearer.

Also a point to add, we are looking at blown up pictures of a small timepiece. In reality, many of the flaws we are seeing under magnification, will be hard to see in real life.
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Old 25 June 2018, 12:47 AM   #14
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I can't believe it.. Personally I would have paid in the ball park of 13k for it myself.

But north of 18k for that particular condition says a lot about the current market.
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Old 26 June 2018, 02:37 PM   #15
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date wheel was incorrect also...
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Old 28 June 2018, 05:03 PM   #16
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Saw one like this in Japan for 15k. I guess 13k is fair as SubKing states.
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Old 31 August 2018, 09:19 PM   #17
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It looks like this watch is back on ebay from the original seller in Ohio. Did it travel around the world and back to Ohio?
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Old 31 August 2018, 09:33 PM   #18
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It looks like this watch is back on ebay from the original seller in Ohio. Did it travel around the world and back to Ohio?
I’d be furious with buyers like this. Buy and then ask and then send back.. Seriously?
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It looks like this watch is back on ebay from the original seller in Ohio. Did it travel around the world and back to Ohio?
And it sold for 23.3k. 4.6k higher.
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Old 7 September 2018, 03:56 PM   #20
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And it sold for 23.3k. 4.6k higher.
I think we will see it relisted. The winning bidder has minimal feedback.
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Old 3 November 2018, 10:35 AM   #21
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Dear All,
looking at some 1680 red mk1 sub’s.. I noticed that some sub’s have a 6 open in the date window ..and other (much more rare) have a 6 closed ... there is a reason for that ?

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Old 3 November 2018, 10:37 AM   #22
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Usually a later service date wheel will have closed sixes and nines.
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Old 3 November 2018, 10:49 AM   #23
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ah ok! thank you very much


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Old 3 November 2018, 02:05 PM   #24
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Old 3 November 2018, 03:23 PM   #25
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Does that cyclops look odd or is that just the camera angle/magnification
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Old 3 November 2018, 05:55 PM   #26
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You have to go for what you love dude
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Old 3 November 2018, 11:19 PM   #27
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Looks like a hole in the dial

I’d stay away and get a nice white 1680 in far better condition for the price...or save for one in better condition...
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Old 4 November 2018, 02:12 AM   #28
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Usually a later service date wheel will have closed sixes and nines.
That's no correct
The service data wheel with 6/9 close doesnt have the 7 hooked....
First 1680 mk1 were with the data wheel same the 1675 gilt

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Old 4 November 2018, 02:49 AM   #29
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...if I’m understanding right..the first mk1 have the 6 and 9 close?

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Old 5 November 2018, 12:35 AM   #30
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