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Old 2 February 2020, 12:23 AM   #1
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Did GS just put out more new models?

Am I crazy or did GS just put out new models. I may need that SBGH279. I can't wait to see that in person. That slate looking dial could be very nice.
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Old 2 February 2020, 12:33 AM   #2
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Yes, 7 new regular product models. Two hi-beats (I really like the SBGH279) and five quartz.

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Old 2 February 2020, 12:35 AM   #3
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Guess the 60th anniversary pieces got all the press.


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Old 2 February 2020, 12:35 AM   #4
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Not sure if this really captures the dial color. Saw it Timeless Luxury's site, and the color looks very different, darker and more grey.
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Old 2 February 2020, 01:30 AM   #5
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Looks like they’re trying to make available every dial option with every movement with every case with every bracelet.
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Old 2 February 2020, 01:52 AM   #6
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Its time GS launches some new line or new design. Its always the same watch, just new dials.
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Old 2 February 2020, 01:57 AM   #7
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Looks like they’re trying to make available every dial option with every movement with every case with every bracelet.
IMHO...this is a mistake.

They are trying to "capitalize" on their emerging popularity by making every possible combination and shoving it out there.

Panerai, Hublot, Omega, Breitling...etc all have done this and the overproduction leads to sell offs, value depreciation and brand erosion.

This is exactly how luxury brands fail in the current market.

They need to stop and offer "less" otherwise the market will punish them with indifference.
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Old 2 February 2020, 02:13 AM   #8
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Its time GS launches some new line or new design. Its always the same watch, just new dials.


What about this design, new and refreshingly different.
And the year has just started, they'll start slow, the best is yet to come (I believe)
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Generally speaking, this isn't going to be good for GS resale values.



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Old 2 February 2020, 02:55 AM   #10
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Totally agree. This is a terrible idea. This can be seen just in this thread alone.

The increase in number of references has been met with a negative reaction...that's just here, imagine what the market will think.

I cannot fathom why these brands do not understand what the market truly wants. It is very clear, but these brands continue to deflate themselves by overproducing and throwing more and more options at the buyer...

The luxury market does not want more options!!!!
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Old 2 February 2020, 03:56 AM   #11
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IMHO...this is a mistake.

They are trying to "capitalize" on their emerging popularity by making every possible combination and shoving it out there.

Panerai, Hublot, Omega, Breitling...etc all have done this and the overproduction leads to sell offs, value depreciation and brand erosion.

This is exactly how luxury brands fail in the current market.

They need to stop and offer "less" otherwise the market will punish them with indifference.
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Totally agree. This is a terrible idea. This can be seen just in this thread alone.

The increase in number of references has been met with a negative reaction...that's just here, imagine what the market will think.

I cannot fathom why these brands do not understand what the market truly wants. It is very clear, but these brands continue to deflate themselves by overproducing and throwing more and more options at the buyer...

The luxury market does not want more options!!!!
I agree with you on all points....however, this is assuming that Grand Seiko has the same intentions and goals as these other companies. The Japanese business sense in an enigma. We can observe what they're doing, but we can only speculate why...and we'll probably be 180 degrees off with our speculation.
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Old 2 February 2020, 04:35 AM   #12
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I like that 279 but would need a strong discount to entertain it the way GS handles releases.
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Old 2 February 2020, 05:09 AM   #13
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GS has several different movements. So, they work to make something for everyone, which means of course they have to cover all of the bases.

You want hi-beat? Auto? Spring Drive? Quartz? Great. You can likely get the dial and case (bracelet to a lesser extent) combo you like, at least with the regular production models.

The movement is at the heart of the decision. Personally, I can only applaud such an approach.

This isn’t about “luxury market”, business cases and “resale value”, it’s just about good watches. I’m not surprised that there are those in this thread who don’t get that.
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Old 2 February 2020, 06:38 AM   #14
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This isn’t about “luxury market”, business cases and “resale value”, it’s just about good watches. I’m not surprised that there are those in this thread who don’t get that.
I totally get it. The question is can they maintain it?
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Old 2 February 2020, 06:47 AM   #15
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ick, nice enough watches but way too many models that all look the same
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Old 2 February 2020, 06:53 AM   #16
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I forgot GS was non profit. My mistake!
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Old 2 February 2020, 06:56 AM   #17
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GS has several different movements. So, they work to make something for everyone, which means of course they have to cover all of the bases.

You want hi-beat? Auto? Spring Drive? Quartz? Great. You can likely get the dial and case (bracelet to a lesser extent) combo you like, at least with the regular production models.

The movement is at the heart of the decision. Personally, I can only applaud such an approach.

This isn’t about “luxury market”, business cases and “resale value”, it’s just about good watches. I’m not surprised that there are those in this thread who don’t get that.
I concur 100% !

Not trying to be smart but I see 5 identical watches with a different dial.
How many dials are available in DJ and DD's ?
It so happens each dial gets its own reference at GS. But in reality it is the same watch with a different dial. Their most iconic case no less where they can really use more dial choice and movements.
I don't see any 'diluting' at all.

GS is doing great and am happy I am fortunate to be able to own a few and am hoping the exciting stuff is yet to come
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I forgot GS was non profit. My mistake!
I’ll bet they’re doin’ alright.
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Old 2 February 2020, 07:13 AM   #19
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Its time GS launches some new line or new design. Its always the same watch, just new dials.
Like a Sub? Same watch with a handful of dial and bezel colors. Same with GMT bezels. All sorts of color variants....but the same watch.
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Did GS just put out more new models?

I still might need that grey dial. Hmmm

Need to see what else’s is on the roster this year from them.
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This isn’t about “luxury market”, business cases and “resale value”, it’s just about good watches. I’m not surprised that there are those in this thread who don’t get that.




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Old 2 February 2020, 09:50 AM   #22
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Come on GS. 38mm ultra-thin hi-beat auto, spring drive or manual wind please! The watch-faces aren’t the problem!
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Old 2 February 2020, 09:57 AM   #23
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Like a Sub? Same watch with a handful of dial and bezel colors. Same with GMT bezels. All sorts of color variants....but the same watch.
Yes, many brands are guilty of this including Rolex. Its the easier way out and sadly reflects a lack of creativity in the industry.
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GS has several different movements. So, they work to make something for everyone, which means of course they have to cover all of the bases.

You want hi-beat? Auto? Spring Drive? Quartz? Great. You can likely get the dial and case (bracelet to a lesser extent) combo you like, at least with the regular production models.

The movement is at the heart of the decision. Personally, I can only applaud such an approach.

This isn’t about “luxury market”, business cases and “resale value”, it’s just about good watches. I’m not surprised that there are those in this thread who don’t get that.
The market doesn’t want that. It will reject it. Dealers will get stuck with excess inventory, need to blow it out, values will plummet and less people will be interested in the brand, forcing dealers to get out of the GS business.

Then what?

Btw..I own (3) GS references and will get more, but this overproduction is toxic to the brand.

I’m not making this up or stating it to be mean spirited or contrarian, there are multiple cases of luxury brands behaving this way and the outcomes are always the same. Bad.
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Old 2 February 2020, 11:47 AM   #25
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Anxiously awaiting their new spring drive offerings they have for this year...
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I can't keep up with all of there new models and LEs. I like the brown dial GS though.

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You should check out the GS domestic watches in Japan, there are literally hundreds of models.

www.plus9time.com/modern-grand-seiko-database
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Come on GS. 38mm ultra-thin hi-beat auto, spring drive or manual wind please! The watch-faces aren’t the problem!
Don't think Spring Drive auto would be thin any time soon. That's one of the reason I can't get into a GS, they are just way too thick.
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Old 2 February 2020, 07:29 PM   #29
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Don't think Spring Drive auto would be thin any time soon. That's one of the reason I can't get into a GS, they are just way too thick.
I’d be very happy with a manual Spring Drive. The recent LEs were a step in the right direction, but the cases when I tried them on were very meh...
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Ok, good looking but not enough to move me to a purchase.
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