Your thoughts on this

[vkychoo]

Hi all,
New to vintage collecting and was considering this:

http://www.capetownstore.com/Merchan...Category_Code=

I would really appreciate your collective wisdom and experience on whether this is accurate and a good starter.

Thank you all in advance.

[andromeda160]

if it still glows i think it's had a redial
and it looks polished.

[springer]

The dial looks fairly nice, but the band, hands and bezel insert have been replaced. Also, the box is incorrect for the watch (late 1970's). As far as being polished, the case appears to be in excellent condition and for a 45-year-old watch, it is hard to find one with an unpolished case and still be in good condition.

I would think that a price closer to $5,000 would be more reasonable.

[Vlad]

Scans are too small, but from what I can see, the dial looks correct for 1967. I do not believe it has been refinsihed, but I do believe it has been relumed.

[htinez]

IMHO for that money you can do a lot better - agree with Greg - amongst other things not liking the polish at all - look at the crown guards - very pointy and lugs arent far behind....

[vkychoo]

To share some of my concerns based on my limited knowledge, I couldn't tell whether the watch dial has been replaced or the photo touched up as it looked too "clean".

The hour markers and hands look perfectly new as noted by Vlad.

I'm also not sure where to look for a better one and have been reading on the vintage sellers on another thread.

My preference is leaning towards one made in 1967

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by vkychoo

To share some of my concerns based on my limited knowledge, I couldn't tell whether the watch dial has been replaced or the photo touched up as it looked too "clean".

The hour markers and hands look perfectly new as noted by Vlad.

I'm also not sure where to look for a better one and have been reading on the vintage sellers on another thread.

My preference is leaning towards one made in 1967

again with the dial. I couldn't tell if it was cleaned or redone, it definatley looks relumed though(glowing dots) the case looks good but it looks excessively polished to me(almost all of these that you find are going to be polished but this one looks like it has been alot.) and the price isn't the best. If you want a 1967 get a 1967, I personally just believe your money could go alot further with a different watch. and with so much stuff being unoriginal/restored the watches collectibility value diminishes quite a bit.

[vkychoo]

You're spot on. Thank you

Originally Posted by andromeda160

again with the dial. I couldn't tell if it was cleaned or redone, it definatley looks relumed though(glowing dots) the case looks good but it looks excessively polished to me(almost all of these that you find are going to be polished but this one looks like it has been alot.) and the price isn't the best. If you want a 1967 get a 1967, I personally just believe your money could go alot further with a different watch. and with so much stuff being unoriginal/restored the watches collectibility value diminishes quite a bit.

[springer]

Originally Posted by vkychoo

You're spot on. Thank you

Regarding my previous comment, I really didn't look at the crown guards very well. It is definitely over-polished there which detracts substantially from the value. The lugs are not that bad, but the crown guards would make me look further at additional ones for sale.

[drainaps]

Pics are kind of photoshopped, which makes giving out reliable opinions very difficult. One cannot see the nuances of the dial. As said by other posters, case is way over polished. I'd definitely pass.

[SennaFan]

They have the worst pics ever. I don't know how they sell anything

[ecsub44]

Even the bezel's coin edge looks to be highly polished.

[SUBversive]

Wonder about "Luminescent Hour Markers" in the write-up. Assuming this is why others say the dial was replaced or re-lumed? Just looked at the bad pics again. Agree with others "overpriced" for the condition.

[vkychoo]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Submar...item2326d27d60

Is this a better one?

[springer]

Originally Posted by vkychoo

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Submar...item2326d27d60

Is this a better one?

Not for me. The dial has been replaced with a later, gold surround markers tritium dial. Also the band has been replaced with a newer 93150.

But, if the price is right, it's your call.

[vkychoo]

Thanks. I didn't spot those changes

[vkychoo]

Is this a good buy?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300841803966...84.m1438.l2649

[ROGERB]

As with the earlier ebay watch commented on by "Springer" this last watch has had a
multitude of changes, dial , hands bezel and strap, most likely in a service which I think makes it no longer a late 60's watch really and pricey for what it is....
IMHO
R

[vkychoo]

Thanks. I can see some changes to the watch but at what point is considered "pricey"?

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by vkychoo

Is this a good buy?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300841803966...84.m1438.l2649

this is a good example but I personally think it's a bit pricy. this watch should be closer to $8k usd but you'll have to wait for one to come up at the right price.

but no pics of the bracelet. and they have a 30 day auction which means they know its going nowhere fast.

[vkychoo]

Thank you!
At least now I'm in the right ball park so it's a little encouraging that I can apply some of the sub details knowledge that I've gleaned from the forum members. Now to work on the price.

Originally Posted by andromeda160

this is a good example but I personally think it's a bit pricy. this watch should be closer to $8k usd but you'll have to wait for one to come up at the right price.

but no pics of the bracelet. and they have a 30 day auction which means they know its going nowhere fast.

[andromeda160]

Just look for previously sold 67 subs, look at conditions of them and keep a price list and condition. then when you find "the one" see how it compares pricewise and offer accordingly.

[vkychoo]

Thank you for the pointers

Originally Posted by andromeda160

Just look for previously sold 67 subs, look at conditions of them and keep a price list and condition. then when you find "the one" see how it compares pricewise and offer accordingly.

[MYK]

The photos look like drawings.

[vkychoo]

Yes, they do. I think they must have photoshopped it

Originally Posted by MYK

The photos look like drawings.