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Old 13 March 2019, 12:58 AM   #1
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Can't recognize this bezel

Hi folks,

The family had this one for many years laying stored away, but I can't find anything about it.

Looks like a 1807, but I cannot find this bezel anywhere.

Any ideas?

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Old 13 March 2019, 01:45 AM   #2
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Not a very clear photo.
Maybe a after market dial/bezel or possible fake watch?
Need clear photos straight on AND of the back of watch
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Old 13 March 2019, 03:24 AM   #3
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Back in the day that bezel mod was very very popular. They usually had a matching full baguette dial installed too. I'd say without other clear photos its probably mostly real but would have it verified before handing over any Benjamin's.
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Old 13 March 2019, 07:03 AM   #4
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Rolex made an original 24 baguette bezel. Need to know the serial to give you the model number and verify originality


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Old 13 March 2019, 07:54 AM   #5
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Rolex made an original 24 baguette bezel. Need to know the serial to give you the model number and verify originality
+1

Looks like a factory dial/bezel from here (ala 18368).
Bark bracelet could have been added later.
Or, it could be a bark model with a dial/bezel swap.

As David mentioned, would need to see the case ref. # and SN to confirm.

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Old 13 March 2019, 08:00 AM   #6
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The serial is 91xxxxx

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Looks like a factory dial/bezel from here (ala 18368).
Bark bracelet could have been added later.
Or, it could be a bark model with a dial/bezel swap.

As David mentioned, would need to see the case ref. # and SN to confirm.

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Old 13 March 2019, 11:29 AM   #7
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Great, that narrows it down to a 1985-ish model.
The reference # (between the lugs @ 12 o'clock) will tell you how it started life (and which parts were added).
If you have the original papers, it will be listed there as well.
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Old 13 March 2019, 07:53 PM   #8
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Can't recognize this bezel

If the bezel is original to the watch the model should be 18168 on the case cheers


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Old 13 March 2019, 09:42 PM   #9
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Rolex made an original 24 baguette bezel. Need to know the serial to give you the model number and verify originality


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+1

Looks like a factory dial/bezel from here (ala 18368).
Bark bracelet could have been added later.
Or, it could be a bark model with a dial/bezel swap.

As David mentioned, would need to see the case ref. # and SN to confirm.

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Great, that narrows it down to a 1985-ish model.
The reference # (between the lugs @ 12 o'clock) will tell you how it started life (and which parts were added).
If you have the original papers, it will be listed there as well.
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If the bezel is original to the watch the model should be 18168 on the case cheers


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Old 13 March 2019, 11:23 PM   #10
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I looked at the case, it is a 18078 with a 592B bracelet.

It looks like the bark bracelet is original to the watch but the bezel added as a mod? Or could this be original too?

It is used, and not very clean right now (because of many years hidden).
One link in the bracelet is missing a pin (screw?).
It does run, the moment I picked it up the dials started moving.

And... any idea of the value?
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Old 13 March 2019, 11:23 PM   #11
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Old 14 March 2019, 08:31 PM   #12
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Appears you have standard bark model the bezel is likely a aftermarket replacement, it’s not really feasible to add this bezel as I was not sold separately, highly unlikely it was taken off an original 18168


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Old 15 March 2019, 05:23 AM   #13
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I looked at the case, it is a 18078 with a 592B bracelet.

It looks like the bark bracelet is original to the watch but the bezel added as a mod? Or could this be original too?
As David stated, that confirms it to be a standard bark model with the bezel swapped out at some point. That being the case, the bezel you have there is most likely aftermarket.

Also, the clasp looks a bit off. Could just be the pic, but if the end pieces are marked "592B" that would confirm it as aftermarket/fake (or aftermarket end-pieces at the very least).
The number on the clasp that you obscured is just the reference number. It should be "8723" and the end pieces should be marked "55". If it's fake, it could still be real gold, just not a genuine Rolex bracelet.

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