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atcq · 16 March 2019, 06:17 AM

All,

I just registered here to seek your expertise.

I found a Submariner 16610T on EBay. Sellers pictures attached from the listing.

Seems quite an old model, and the aluminium bezel is a bit banged up. Generally the watch is in OK condition it looks like.

Could you tell me if it looks authentic to you, it comes with no box or papers but is from a seller also in the UK with 500+ positive feedbacks + 100% positive transactions.

Where would be the best place to take it otherwise to verify if its real? Rolex AD?

It looks like a decent shout to me but I could be way off the mark, I'm certainly no expert. For me the bezel numbering seems a bit narrow which was the main suspicion I saw. And whether the pictures are the property of the seller which they seem to be.

Let me know your thoughts.

Many thanks.

Tools · 16 March 2019, 06:27 AM

Sorry, this watch is fake.

atcq · 16 March 2019, 06:34 AM

As conclusive as one can get - many thanks, I'll pass on it.

Could you tell me out of interest what helped you identify? I'm looking to learn!

Thanks in advance.

Tools · 16 March 2019, 06:43 AM

The movement is a clone.

atcq · 16 March 2019, 06:45 AM

Much appreciated.

freefly · 16 March 2019, 06:50 AM

Yep, Larry nailed it. Total junker.
If you want to post the link or auction #, we'll get it shut down.

atcq · 16 March 2019, 07:11 AM

Thanks for the confirm freefly.

Its funny how obvious it now seems to me once I look at that last picture of the movement and how different it looks to a normal 3135. When looking before being told I think the wishing it was real caused clouded judgement....

crowncollection · 16 March 2019, 08:09 AM

As above it’s fake, clone movement

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16 March 2019, 06:27 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,050	Sorry, this watch is fake. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

16 March 2019, 06:43 AM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,050	The movement is a clone. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

16 March 2019, 08:09 AM	#8
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	As above it’s fake, clone movement Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

16 March 2019, 06:34 AM	#3
atcq "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: UK Posts: 4	As conclusive as one can get - many thanks, I'll pass on it. Could you tell me out of interest what helped you identify? I'm looking to learn! Thanks in advance.

16 March 2019, 06:45 AM	#5
atcq "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: UK Posts: 4	Much appreciated.

16 March 2019, 06:50 AM	#6
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	Yep, Larry nailed it. Total junker. If you want to post the link or auction #, we'll get it shut down.

16 March 2019, 07:11 AM	#7
atcq "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: UK Posts: 4	Thanks for the confirm freefly. Its funny how obvious it now seems to me once I look at that last picture of the movement and how different it looks to a normal 3135. When looking before being told I think the wishing it was real caused clouded judgement....

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