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Wesley Crusher · 21 May 2014, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Don't you have to unscrew the bracelet to get it off because you can't squeeze the spingbar because of the bracelets width. Or am I missing something....
It's one of the reasons I like that unobtainable tweezer thingamajig, You can just pinch the springbar with the bracelet on.

If you lay the watch face down and open the clasp, you should be able to fit the tool over the narrowest part of the clasp so unscrewing the bracelet wouldn't be necessary.

jnkay · 21 May 2014, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rmfnla

On should be easy; the absence of lug holes don't matter...

Getting the bracelet back on is the problem. Off is relatively MUCH easier.

Friar · 21 May 2014, 01:48 PM

Using the double spring bar tool from Esslinger I was able to remove the bracelet and the Easylink with just the normal awkwardness of a first attempt. What I really appreciate is that you can set the gap between the tips with the screw adjustment. This helps to minimize the chances of scratching the lugs.

JohnBaker3 · 21 May 2014, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

It's a tool named Ref 3200 and it's very hard to find. Only the dealers can buy it and it's not for sale to regular people.

+1

However, I have seen one listed on VRF Market site...and it wasn't inexpensive...

http://www.vintagerolexforum.com/

iclick · 22 May 2014, 12:28 AM

I originally bought a cheap tool on Ebay which was the wrong size for my Daytona. It requires a very small (1.2mm IIRC) tip. I got a refund and kept looking.

After doing more research I finally bought a Bergeon 6767-F from an Ebay seller in France a few months ago for only $22 including shipping. I got it delivered to my U.S. address in one week. Here is the current listing.

kaseri · 22 May 2014, 12:32 AM

Bergeon 6825-PF seems to work well for many.

jswing · 22 May 2014, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Friar

Ordered one and the 1mm tips work fine. The larger tips work with my Ball and Omega bracelets. Being able to slant the tips at 45 degrees helps with visibility. Although, my older eyes are going to need a lit magnifying glass very soon.

Thanks for that, I just ordered one.

FlyinM3 · 24 May 2014, 04:34 AM

Just received my Bergeon 6825-PF today, and noticed the fine forks need to be filed down a bit. I'm sure I gouged the inner parts of my endlink a bit trying to force them in before filing.

Plus, I'm not sure if its smart to use my 116520 as a test bed.

At least I'm going to tape up the back of my lugs to minimize damage.

applebook · 4 August 2014, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Friar

Has anyone used this Horofix Watch Bracelet Springbar Pliers with the 1mm tips on their bracelet? It seems the tips would fit but before buying I thought I'd seek confirmation. My watch is a Explorer I 214270.

http://www.esslinger.com/watch-brace...nd-pliers.aspx

Has no one else caught the fake Moonwatch used on the Esslinger site to advertise this tool?

sheldonsmith · 4 August 2014, 11:11 PM

I have both the Rolex tool and the Bergeon 6825 with fine forks. Both work great, but yes, the Rolex tool is harder to get. For years I used the Bergeon tool without problems, but I did have to file down the FF tips for them to fit correctly.

I have a DIY at http://www.minus4plus6.com/maintenance.htm#removal and more on the Rolex kit (purchased here in the sales forum) here: http://www.minus4plus6.com/bracelet_kit.htm

-Sheldon

joli160 · 4 August 2014, 11:55 PM

I believe it was Manny who suggested once to fabricate a clone of the 3200 if there was enough demand for it. I certainly would buy.

mannyv11 · 5 August 2014, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joli160

I believe it was Manny who suggested once to fabricate a clone of the 3200 if there was enough demand for it. I certainly would buy.

I've been working on it for the last few weeks with my friend. Needless to say it's a little bit of a pain in the A$$ but we are getting close.

joli160 · 5 August 2014, 09:27 AM

Wish you lots of success Manny

Looking forward to see the result of your work.

samsam · 5 August 2014, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyv11

I've been working on it for the last few weeks with my friend. Needless to say it's a little bit of a pain in the A$$ but we are getting close.

I really hope you succeed, Manny. A confirmed customer here.

CWIN · 5 August 2014, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyv11

I've been working on it for the last few weeks with my friend. Needless to say it's a little bit of a pain in the A$$ but we are getting close.

I'd definitely be interested

Let us know how it works out

007Sub · 5 August 2014, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyv11

I've been working on it for the last few weeks with my friend. Needless to say it's a little bit of a pain in the A$$ but we are getting close.

Please keep us posted.

phrede · 5 August 2014, 09:19 PM

I think I found something here:
http://www.watch-tool.de/html/bracel....php?id=0090dv

1,2 mm forks. Not the original ref. 3200, but.....

Randy9999 · 5 August 2014, 11:48 PM

That may be the way to go!

Quote:

Originally Posted by phrede

I think I found something here:
http://www.watch-tool.de/html/bracel....php?id=0090dv

1,2 mm forks. Not the original ref. 3200, but.....

007Sub · 6 August 2014, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phrede

I think I found something here:
http://www.watch-tool.de/html/bracel....php?id=0090dv

1,2 mm forks. Not the original ref. 3200, but.....

Ordered. Will give it a try when it arrives and keep you all posted!

T. Ferguson · 6 August 2014, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007Sub

Ordered. Will give it a try when it arrives and keep you all posted!

Please do! It will be especially nice if they work right out of the box, no filing the points.

007Sub · 6 August 2014, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

Please do! It will be especially nice if they work right out of the box, no filing the points.

Definitely! They claim 1.2mm so it should work. Fingers crossed!

applebook · 6 August 2014, 06:08 PM

I've got a question about all of these pliers/tweezers: do they work for normal straps?

I find that changing bracelets like modern SEL Rolex/ Speedmaster pretty easy compared to changing out a leather strap that is stiff and doesn't have any cut-outs in the back. It's almost impossible to remove the strap without damaging it or INNER lugs.

phrede · 9 August 2014, 02:07 AM

...And it works!!!!!
Got mine today, and it fits perfectly for my 116600 :-)

http://www.watch-tool.de/html/bracel....php?id=0090dv

007Sub · 13 August 2014, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phrede

...And it works!!!!!
Got mine today, and it fits perfectly for my 116600 :-)

http://www.watch-tool.de/html/bracel....php?id=0090dv

Yes! Mine works too. Arrived yesterday! Love it!

NA5AR · 13 August 2014, 02:26 AM

This works the same way?

mtb · 13 August 2014, 03:31 PM

This is great news!

Does it need filing?

Does the spring bar stay put easily?

Quote:

Originally Posted by phrede

...And it works!!!!!
Got mine today, and it fits perfectly for my 116600 :-)

http://www.watch-tool.de/html/bracel....php?id=0090dv

phrede · 13 August 2014, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtb

This is great news!

Does it need filing?

Does the spring bar stay put easily?

No filing, it grabs the springbar perfectly and holds it as well

mtb · 13 August 2014, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phrede

No filing, it grabs the springbar perfectly and holds it as well

Thanks!

Looks like it could be the alternative for 6825-PF

phrede · 13 August 2014, 03:53 PM

I like it because it is so simple, genius one-hand operation which means one can change the bracelet very swiftly :)

KINGROLESAR · 13 August 2014, 11:41 PM

Or just make this $5 -

5 August 2014, 09:27 AM	#73
joli160 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,341	Wish you lots of success Manny Looking forward to see the result of your work. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

6 August 2014, 06:08 PM	#82
applebook "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 1,918	I've got a question about all of these pliers/tweezers: do they work for normal straps? I find that changing bracelets like modern SEL Rolex/ Speedmaster pretty easy compared to changing out a leather strap that is stiff and doesn't have any cut-outs in the back. It's almost impossible to remove the strap without damaging it or INNER lugs. __________________

9 August 2014, 02:07 AM	#83
phrede "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Denmark Watch: Sea-Dweller 4000 Posts: 567	Anyone know where to get one of these springbar pliers used by Rolex? ...And it works!!!!! Got mine today, and it fits perfectly for my 116600 :-) http://www.watch-tool.de/html/bracel....php?id=0090dv

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21 May 2014, 01:48 PM	#63
Friar "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Gary Location: Oregon Watch: 214270 216570 Posts: 707	Using the double spring bar tool from Esslinger I was able to remove the bracelet and the Easylink with just the normal awkwardness of a first attempt. What I really appreciate is that you can set the gap between the tips with the screw adjustment. This helps to minimize the chances of scratching the lugs.

22 May 2014, 12:28 AM	#65
iclick "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 813	I originally bought a cheap tool on Ebay which was the wrong size for my Daytona. It requires a very small (1.2mm IIRC) tip. I got a refund and kept looking. After doing more research I finally bought a Bergeon 6767-F from an Ebay seller in France a few months ago for only $22 including shipping. I got it delivered to my U.S. address in one week. Here is the current listing.

22 May 2014, 12:32 AM	#66
kaseri "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: USA Posts: 350	Bergeon 6825-PF seems to work well for many.

24 May 2014, 04:34 AM	#68
FlyinM3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Dan Location: NYC Posts: 807	Just received my Bergeon 6825-PF today, and noticed the fine forks need to be filed down a bit. I'm sure I gouged the inner parts of my endlink a bit trying to force them in before filing. Plus, I'm not sure if its smart to use my 116520 as a test bed. At least I'm going to tape up the back of my lugs to minimize damage.

4 August 2014, 11:11 PM	#70
sheldonsmith 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Member 202♛ Posts: 1,810	I have both the Rolex tool and the Bergeon 6825 with fine forks. Both work great, but yes, the Rolex tool is harder to get. For years I used the Bergeon tool without problems, but I did have to file down the FF tips for them to fit correctly. I have a DIY at http://www.minus4plus6.com/maintenance.htm#removal and more on the Rolex kit (purchased here in the sales forum) here: http://www.minus4plus6.com/bracelet_kit.htm -Sheldon

4 August 2014, 11:55 PM	#71
joli160 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,341	I believe it was Manny who suggested once to fabricate a clone of the 3200 if there was enough demand for it. I certainly would buy.

5 August 2014, 09:19 PM	#77
phrede "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Denmark Watch: Sea-Dweller 4000 Posts: 567	I think I found something here: http://www.watch-tool.de/html/bracel....php?id=0090dv 1,2 mm forks. Not the original ref. 3200, but.....

13 August 2014, 02:26 AM	#85
NA5AR "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: London Posts: 96	This works the same way?

13 August 2014, 03:53 PM	#89
phrede "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Denmark Watch: Sea-Dweller 4000 Posts: 567	I like it because it is so simple, genius one-hand operation which means one can change the bracelet very swiftly :)

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