AP Diver or DeepSea???????

[diver2012]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

but a tool it is not.

It is an ISO certified dive watch. End of story.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by mailman

The DSSD is big, tall and heavy. The thing I don't like about the AP Diver is the crown at the 10:00 position. I know it serves a purpose, but for me it's a deal breaker

Really? Its something I never notice any more, same with the HEV on my Omega PO, I just don't think about it at all, there is literally so much else that catches my eye with this watch.

[craniotes]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

But hey I'm sure a better looking movement is worth more than a better working one, talk about marketing...

Personally, I view movement decoration and hand-finishing as legitimate reasons for choosing one watch over another. I mean, isn't that a big part of mechanical horology and something to be lauded rather than derided? And if the movement turns out to be fantastic piece of engineering with ceramic ball bearings, a variable inertia Gyromax balance and a 60-hr power reserve (achieved with a single barrel), all the better, right?

No, true "marketing" would be more along the lines of, "...it takes a year to make a [insert watch here]" when the watch in question rolls off an assembly line.

But that's just me.

Regards,
Adam

[Rashid.bk]

Lol, I love this thread. So much passion for justifying purchases. There'll be a counter for every post of either watch. Obviously everyone has buying priorities that lead you to one over the other. I wouldn't mind owning both......
Enjoy your watches guys.

[craniotes]

With out that passion, we'd all be wearing Casio F-91s right now.

And yes, I want my DSSD back, as it was and is a truly brilliant piece of engineering. Overkill? Of course, but then that's sort of the point and a big part of why I loved it so much.

Regards,
Adam

[mtb]

Didn't remember I had the login... but anyway... was thinking of having another diver and came across this thread..

I have the DSSD by the way, and it is on Rubber B... and i wear it almost daily (except for weekends... I wear g-shock for mountain biking)

it's really comfortable on rubber

[oilman666]

Originally Posted by moby33

I realize this is probably not going to make a lot of friends, but I just don't get the AP appeal (from an aesthetics standpoint). I've tried to warm up to their look over the years, but it just doesn't do it for me.

The funky stop-sign, non-functioning bezel cases (w/ garish screws), dials that always seem too cluttered w/ their checker board layouts & hands that always seem way too plain & boring all add up to a watch that just doesn't look good to me.

No disputing their movement & build quality, but I've got to like what I'm looking at when I put a watch on my wrist and the AP's just don't do it for me. I've said it before, but to me the AP looks like something a 12 year old with above average drawing skills would design in the mid 80's.

For that reason alone, I would take the DSSD all day long. Good luck!

I respect your opinion. but I personally like the AP look. I love the look. That being said the DSSD on this topic is the way to go

[masterserg]

Having owned both, I'd say that the DSSD is more suitable for hard use (not because the AP couldn't take it but because of the more delicate finishing that would take a beating). If you are a sat diver, it is a no brainer ...

That said, the AP wears a lot more comfortable and balanced and it is a joy to stare at (for me that is). You have to like the AP design language of course.

As a side note, I find the internal bezel a non issue and have no problems operating it (though I never tried underwater and I would probably not like opening the crown). I also LOVE the look of the 10 o'clock crown.

[Dcmk]

As much as I like AP Diver but definitely the Deepsea in this regard - in comparison the AP is more beauty than brawns

[Dcmk]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

AP diver is a classier watch IMO. DSSD is a gimmick watch; no one dives to depths over 120 ft., and the AP diver well exceeds that depth by over three fold....

Sorry IMO it should be the other way round - AP Diver the gimmicky but classier yes

[moby33]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

I'm a 24/7 guy too and while I haven't wanted to rip it off my wrist yet, I have recently noticed it's weight. I was bed ridden last week for a few days and didn't wear a watch. When I finally put the DSSD on I could feel the weight and found it to be burdensome even. It may have been some oversensitivity since I was still a little sick but it has been a wake up call, now I'm afraid that my beloved Deepsea will start to mentally become heavier and possibly uncomfortable.

I'm not a flipper but want that "perfect" timeless watch that I could see me wearing when I'm sixty plus years old, In the back of my mind, the Deepsea doesn't seem to be that watch, but my GMTc is pretty awesome. Maybe I'm over thinking things.
So far my DSSD has been keeping my smile fresh when I look down and feels ok now that I'm healthy again, but the Diver is sure calling, especially the FC that I can't afford(unless I get rid of my DS and GMTc, the horror).

Oh man, you're toast...only a matter of time before the DSSD goes on the selling block. Been there, done that. As I mentioned earlier, my DSSD literally didn't come off my wrist for a little over 2 years. Never thought I would part w/ it until I purchased my SubC. Then the DSSD started to get inside my head just as you described.

Ultimately, once I purchased the Omega PO Chrono 9300 to fill my "big watch" desire, the DSSD was sold. I now routinely go between my 9300 & SubC.

While the SubC is still a tad smaller than I would like (I still wish Rolex would make a 42mm Sub), the Maxi-case definitely helps make it wear larger than 40mm. But in the end, there's just no denying how comfortable the SubC is when compared to the DSSD.

Oh yeah...and how could I forget in this thread. Death to all AP owners...that watch just can't hang w/ a DSSD (j/k...settle down...it was a joke). To each his/her own. Wear what you love, love what you wear.

[horseco]

I am NOT a fan of the DSSD, Rolex is now making Panerai sized watches...

[beachbum]

What a great thread great passion indeed. About six months after I posted this thread I got this one

I really liked the diver but didn't LOVE it so off it went

But I do love this one
What I learned is that they are both awesome watches and you cannot lose either way. However I think the DSSD takes a lot of crap on the forums which I
Find is a bit over the top. I find it sets the bar extremely high.

[Hkexpat183]

Depends what you want in a watch. If you want a luxury sporty diving watch then the diver but if you want a true bad ass diver and do anything tool watch then the DSSD is the one.

I looked at the DSSD for years it wasn't actually until I had a chance to try one for one week before I decided to pick it up. Haven't looked back since. Amazing durable piece if engineering.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by moby33

Oh man, you're toast...only a matter of time before the DSSD goes on the selling block. Been there, done that.

Well, after much debating....I've officially decided the Deepsea's for me. In fact the Diver doesn't appeal to me at all anymore.
The fc Diver is a different story, but a little bit above what I'm willing to pay for a watch at the moment.

[masterserg]

I just wish the Diver had better lume. Don't quite understand how Seiko, Omega and others can master lume and AP neglects this aspect. Ultimately, I love both watches but the bad lume is a turn off for me .... which wouldn't prevent me from getting it as it such a work of art (I owned both, more than once).

[leica]

AP Diver!

[BZA]

both!

[masterserg]

^^ Always the best answer!

[AK797]

Originally Posted by beachbum

However I think the DSSD takes a lot of crap on the forums which I
Find is a bit over the top. I find it sets the bar extremely high.

I've owned both, loved the APD and really liked the DSSD, but the reason the DSSD gets stick is because it is out of proportion, just too thick and top heavy and compounded by the madness of not having a thicker bracelet to stop the flopping and pulling of the head. It looks like Rolex, being used to only the 40mm divers, and worrying only about the diving capacity, didn't think through how the rest of the watch should wear and look.

[masterserg]

My experience with the DSSD was different ... I loved the bracelet and found it very comfortable when properly sized. I guess wrist shape plays a part as well, mine being very flat.

Diver on rubber strap takes the edge comfort and fit wise though.

[bzabodyn]

This is my first post here, but I've been around other forums for a while (TZ, DWC, P.com) - after getting hot on AP recently, I started hanging around here (mainly drooling in the "daily AP" thread) - I currently own a DSSD that I mainly wear on the RubberB strap as its wonderfully balanced for a large watch - much more so than the bracelet. I had the DSSD and a sub C together for a while but the DSSD won out.

I was going to move the DSSD recently for a Diver and I just couldn't justify spending that much for a watch on a rubber strap when I already have what I think is the perfect watch on a rubber strap. I opted instead for a new silvered dial 15400 for some diversity that I'll get next Tuesday. I think it'll be a nice contrast between my other (most black dial) watches. Don't get me wrong, I still love the diver, but I don't think it can beat out the DSSD in my modest collection.

BZ

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by masterserg

My experience with the DSSD was different ... I loved the bracelet and found it very comfortable when properly sized. I guess wrist shape plays a part as well, mine being very flat.

Diver on rubber strap takes the edge comfort and fit wise though.

Totally agree. Walked into a boutique wearing my DS and tried the Diver, comparing it right after taking my DS off I can honestly say it's one comfy mamajama.
Love my Deepsea though, it's that fc Diver I need to stay away from as it will hypnotize me into selling my watches for it. That thing is sick.

[redsubby]

Originally Posted by AK797

I've owned both, loved the APD and really liked the DSSD, but the reason the DSSD gets stick is because it is out of proportion, just too thick and top heavy and compounded by the madness of not having a thicker bracelet to stop the flopping and pulling of the head. It looks like Rolex, being used to only the 40mm divers, and worrying only about the diving capacity, didn't think through how the rest of the watch should wear and look.

Adjust the bracelet to fit your wrist correctly and the watch won't move. A thicker/wider bracelet would only make the watch more uncomfortable.

[AK797]

I had to have it pretty tight to stop any head movement which I don't like to do altho the fantastic glidelock made this easy to adjust, but still it was irritating. I don't have this issue on my subc, which I sold it for, and rarely have to adjust the glidelock as I can wear this a little loose. But also aesthetically the bracelet tapering down to just 16/17mm didn't look right esp on a thick 43mm watch. The APDs thicker bracelets/straps look so much better balanced and my 44mm Breitling's bracelets tapering to 20mm were more comfortable too. But Im certainly not anti DSSD at all, I thought it was a great watch overall just not right for me.

[masterserg]

Just out of curiosity Neil, did you remove the Diver's Extension on the DSSD? It makes a massive difference on the DSSD's fit. Anyway, it is a tough watch to get used to ... I was never able to keep it for whatever reason. When I see the pictures, I want it again, immediately!

[BZA]

+1 for Diver extension removal, as Serg says it transforms the comfort factor with the DSSD. Love both watches!

[Chary]

Mercedes AMG vs Entry Ferrari???... exactly AP all day, by the way I've owned both in the past...